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    anyone know if the 537833 elbow used on Champion sixes for the heater hose connection to the head has a 5/8" heater hose connection and 1/2" NPT thread? Reason I ask is, I need a right angle heater hose fitting to move the heater hose connection on my '55 to the back of the pass. side head so I can install A/C (can't use the driver's side heater hose connection on the water manifold with my aftermarket bracket,) and am having a hard time finding something that works. The Champion part is $5 from SASCO but the only new part I can find is a $30 stainless steel hot rod piece; my local FLAPS doesn't have anything less expensive.

    thanks,

    nate

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  • #2
    The 259 that was in my Hawk had such a fitting. I think the engine was from a truck. Isn't that fitting held on by two bolts? If the fitting isn't there isn't it covered by a flat plate? Yes, I looked it up, the fitting attached in place of the plate, I have no idea what the number is, sorry.

    Tim K.
    '64 R2 GT Hawk
    Tim K.
    \'64 R2 GT Hawk

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    • #3
      I was thinking that the early temp. sender screwed into a similar plate with a 1/2" NPT hole, worst case I buy a tap and drill and tap the blank plate on my pass. side head to work.

      Are you saying that the fitting and plate was one part on your car? There's no "fitting" in the head per se, it's just an open hole into the water jacket that's used by the water manifold on the front of the car and blanked off with a thick steel plate at the rear (since there are no "left" or "right" head castings, that opening needs to be present at both ends.)

      nate

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      • #4
        Right, it is a small casting made to be held on by the two bolts. It looks like a small version of the thermostat housing. It holds the hose real close to the head and points it right off to the side toward the heater valve on a Hawk.

        Tim K.
        '64 R2 GT Hawk
        Tim K.
        \'64 R2 GT Hawk

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        • #5
          Did that truck have A/C on it? or were all trucks like that? Sadly I don't think I have a truck parts book laying around...

          nate

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          • #6
            I have no idea. I do know that a couple people noticed that fitting for the heater hose and then commented that then the engine must be from a truck.

            Tim K.
            '64 R2 GT Hawk
            Tim K.
            \'64 R2 GT Hawk

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            • #7
              N8,
              I take the bock-off plate and drill and tap it to 1/2" NPT. Install it to the motor, and screw in a BRASS 90 as far as possible. Make SURE the outlet is pointing the correct direction. I found one at the plumbing supply that is like a machined "billet" and not a cast fitting, the threads go all the way to the 90. After installing it, grind the inside flush, and braze it to the plate.

              Ray


              Specializing in Studebaker Restoration
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              • #8
                where do you get a brass fitting like that? that's what started this whole line of inquiry; I can't find one at any of my FLAPS or hardware stores.

                nate

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                • #9
                  Hey Nate !........Ray told You..... I found one at the plumbing supply

                  1961 Hawk 4BC,4-SPEED,TT

                  Ken Byrd
                  Lewisville,NC
                  1961 Hawk ...4-Speed;4bc;Twin Traction

                  Ken Byrd
                  Lewisville,NC

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                  • #10
                    We used one like this: Just inserted a 2" pipe nipple for the hose connection.


                    Oh... and it's REALLY close to the firewall....

                    Ray




                    Specializing in Studebaker Restoration
                    Ray

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                    • #11
                      Nate:

                      I got one of those elbows that Ray mentioned at our local Home Depot.

                      Alan Mende
                      Hummelstown, PA
                      Kindest regards,

                      Alan Mende
                      Grantville, PA

                      I'm not a mechanic; I don't even play one on TV.

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                      • #12
                        funny, that's one of the places I looked, but then again I've come to the conclusion that both of my local HD's are some of the worst in the country. Maybe I should stop at Lowe's in Bowie next time I head out to JP's (nearest Lowe's is too far just to drive to after work...)

                        nate

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                        • #13
                          The aftermarket A/C systems, Mark IV and others made a special fitting to fit the back of the right head on a V-8, because they did not have water manifolds like the factory did with a left hand side heater hose fittings available, and as you know there is certainly NOT room on a V-8 with a York monster compressor, for a heater hose & fitting under it.

                          So the truck you saw probably had a car engine that had aftermarket A/C in it once. It was a nice neat one piece casting that looked automotive, NOT like a rolling plumbing store. You find these now and then on Studes. that used to have air.

                          StudeRich
                          Studebakers Northwest
                          Ferndale, WA
                          StudeRich
                          Second Generation Stude Driver,
                          Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                          • #14
                            Nate,
                            ERS in Glen Burnie shows the item in there catalog. Item #2631. Phone # 410-787-0002

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                            • #15
                              Hi Nate,

                              I KNEW I had the number of that elbow that I bought at Home Depot. Its a Watts A-782 FIP to MIP street elbow. (That's a machined brass 3/8 NPT 90 degree street el).

                              Happy Hunting,

                              Alan Mende
                              Hummelstown, PA
                              Kindest regards,

                              Alan Mende
                              Grantville, PA

                              I'm not a mechanic; I don't even play one on TV.

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