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5E7 Clutch Problem

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  • Clutch/Torque Converter: 5E7 Clutch Problem

    Who wants to guess this one. I bought this 5E7 Champ pickup. Nicely redone. Rebuilt engine(289 Hawk) and new 11" clutch. Running a T85 3 speed O/D. I drove it 30 miles and then a clunk when I pushed the clutch pedal down. Then the clutch would not release. There was some resistance 3 inches off the floor and adjusting did not produce any results. After much fighting I got the clutch out. I have a blueprint of the clutch cross shaft and fork assembly. I made up a template to check alignment and it looks good. Just by sight the pressure plate looks OK. All the other linkage is OK. Pictures attached. The rivets on the disk are hitting the flywheel. Easy fix.
    1. Has anyone had this problem before? What's the answer?
    2. Has anyone had the rivets in the disk hub hit the flywheel?
    3. I had to jack the cab up to remove the bellhousing. That doesn't seem normal either.
    Nearest I can see looking at the parts manual all the parts are correct.

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    Claude Chmielewski
    Studeski
    http://www.studeski.com
    Fillmore, Wisconsin
    47 M-16 Truck
    53 2R5
    60 Lark VIII Convertible
    60 5E7 Champ pickup
    62 GT Hawk 4 speed
    63 Lark
    63 GT Hawk R2 4 speed
    64 Commander Wagonaire
    64 Daytona Convertible
    50 Champion Regal (parts car)
    36 Dictator
    36 Dictator in pieces

  • #2
    Most 289's whould have a 10 1/2 Inch Clutch.

    This one is likely a Big Block GM replacement.

    Were "Some Trucks" Factory equipped with an oversize Clutch? Yes, but only by "Special Order" my 7E13 had a 12 Inch.

    I can't tell anything from those Photos, are the rivets in the center of the Disc hitting the Flywheel? The Disc. may be installed BACKWARDS!
    Last edited by StudeRich; 09-28-2017, 12:17 PM.
    StudeRich
    Second Generation Stude Driver,
    Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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    • #3
      That's what I thought, but..........the third column in the parts book is 5E

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      Claude Chmielewski
      Studeski
      http://www.studeski.com
      Fillmore, Wisconsin
      47 M-16 Truck
      53 2R5
      60 Lark VIII Convertible
      60 5E7 Champ pickup
      62 GT Hawk 4 speed
      63 Lark
      63 GT Hawk R2 4 speed
      64 Commander Wagonaire
      64 Daytona Convertible
      50 Champion Regal (parts car)
      36 Dictator
      36 Dictator in pieces

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      • #4
        I cant tell by the pic if the spline hub shown is the long side or short side...generally long side goes to tranny. Your third pic shows a wear patch right there on the inside edge of the flywheel surface, correct? and those 5 large rivets is doing the damage?

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        • #5
          It looks like the disk was installed backwards from that picture. As far as the lack of pedal, are you sure the pins in the sleeve have not sheared? I've had that happen, and both ends stayed in place, so they looked OK. BUt when somone would push on the pedal, you could see the operating shaft wasn't turning.
          Ron Dame
          '63 Champ

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          • #6
            Originally posted by fh4ever View Post
            I cant tell by the pic if the spline hub shown is the long side or short side...generally long side goes to tranny. Your third pic shows a wear patch right there on the inside edge of the flywheel surface, correct? and those 5 large rivets is doing the damage?
            Yes, that's what caused the damage to the flywheel.
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            Claude Chmielewski
            Studeski
            http://www.studeski.com
            Fillmore, Wisconsin
            47 M-16 Truck
            53 2R5
            60 Lark VIII Convertible
            60 5E7 Champ pickup
            62 GT Hawk 4 speed
            63 Lark
            63 GT Hawk R2 4 speed
            64 Commander Wagonaire
            64 Daytona Convertible
            50 Champion Regal (parts car)
            36 Dictator
            36 Dictator in pieces

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ron Dame View Post
              It looks like the disk was installed backwards from that picture. As far as the lack of pedal, are you sure the pins in the sleeve have not sheared? I've had that happen, and both ends stayed in place, so they looked OK. BUt when somone would push on the pedal, you could see the operating shaft wasn't turning.
              Ron,
              No the disk was not installed backwards. All the linkage was checked prior to removing the clutch.
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              Claude Chmielewski
              Studeski
              http://www.studeski.com
              Fillmore, Wisconsin
              47 M-16 Truck
              53 2R5
              60 Lark VIII Convertible
              60 5E7 Champ pickup
              62 GT Hawk 4 speed
              63 Lark
              63 GT Hawk R2 4 speed
              64 Commander Wagonaire
              64 Daytona Convertible
              50 Champion Regal (parts car)
              36 Dictator
              36 Dictator in pieces

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