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  • Clutch / Torque Converter: Is it necessary to dial indicate the belhousing on a Packard V8

    I am in the midst of converting a '56 Golden Hawk from an Ultramatic transmission to a T85 3 speed w/overdrive. I know it is important if not mandatory to dial indicate the bellhousing to the engine when you change these on a Studebaker V8. Is the same true with a Packard V8. Thanks in advance.
    Howard - Los Angeles chapter SDC
    '53 Commander Starliner (Finally running and driving, but still in process)
    '56 Golden Hawk (3 speed/overdrive, Power steering - Running, but not yet driving)
    '62 GT Hawk (4 speed, A/C, Power steering - running and DRIVING!)

  • #2
    I don't know the answer, but if I were doing it, I'd check it. If Packard had tooled up to maintain concentricy, you'd need a Packard OD bell housing.

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    • #3
      Thanks Tom. I do have a Packard V8 bell housing, flywheel, clutch, etc..
      Howard - Los Angeles chapter SDC
      '53 Commander Starliner (Finally running and driving, but still in process)
      '56 Golden Hawk (3 speed/overdrive, Power steering - Running, but not yet driving)
      '62 GT Hawk (4 speed, A/C, Power steering - running and DRIVING!)

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      • #4
        Not necessary. The Packard bell housing has a flange which locates it.

        Make sure you have the flywheel re-surfaced, bolts, pressure plate, disc, fork, throw out bearing, return spring and pilot bearing in hand.

        I also prefer the Hurst floor shift conversion.

        Jack Vines
        PackardV8

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        • #5
          Thanks very much Jack. This is for the car you just made the shifter bracket for.
          Howard - Los Angeles chapter SDC
          '53 Commander Starliner (Finally running and driving, but still in process)
          '56 Golden Hawk (3 speed/overdrive, Power steering - Running, but not yet driving)
          '62 GT Hawk (4 speed, A/C, Power steering - running and DRIVING!)

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          • #6
            Nope, bell housing alignment is not needed. Also, if you need a t/o bearing, there is a common, available replacement that won't cost an arm and a leg. Its originally for a Toyota alternator IIRC. If you need the part number, I can dig it up for you. Do not listen to anyone who tells you it is unobtainium, so you must pay big $ for theirs.

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            • #7
              Thanks Joe. Part number please?
              Howard - Los Angeles chapter SDC
              '53 Commander Starliner (Finally running and driving, but still in process)
              '56 Golden Hawk (3 speed/overdrive, Power steering - Running, but not yet driving)
              '62 GT Hawk (4 speed, A/C, Power steering - running and DRIVING!)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by brngarage View Post
                Thanks Joe. Part number please?
                Oops, I meant to say pilot bearing. Will dig that number up for you. I also replaced the t/o bearing with a modern bearing, but believe my car's t/o carrier had already been turned down about .050", so not sure the t/o bearing I used would work for you.

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                • #9
                  Here ya go. This is the pilot bearing. Still trying to decipher my maintenance log entry on the t/o bearing. Its the pilot bearing that is NLA. Every once in awhile, an NOS one turns up in the Packard world, and the seller usually wants a small fortune for it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-4712-NEW-S...VYLHmp&vxp=mtr

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                  • #10
                    Many years ago when I did the change to od, I used a pilot large bushing for a 390 Ford. It fit the crank and the id was right for the T85 input shaft.

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