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  • Jeff_H
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    If I ever get my '53 running again, its going to need new tires (they are ~17yrs old I think !!!!). Any rate, the ones on it I always noted that 1 of them would get a brown/dirty looking whitewall a lot easier than the other 3. Cleaning it with Westleys would help a lot but it would never get as white compared to the others so there is something different about that tire.

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  • Hawklover
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    I will admit that I have always thought the money spent on premium tires was money well spent.
    For many years my Avanti rode on Parelli tires when they made a great tire called the P-400 white wall in 205X75X15 size. I tossed them due to their age.
    I have sadly discovered that Michelin tires develop side wall crack/splits within 4-5 years. The car now rides with "Defender" Michelin's....and sure as the sun rises, the side wall is full of small splits. Guess I will have to toss the tires soon, human life is too precious to worry about the cost of tire replacement.....just have to factor in this cost as the price of old car ownership. For those members that are in Joyzee, consider Bobby's car repair in Middletown, NJ on Route 35. Honest great work and he loves Studebakers!!...and if you get hungry across the street is The New Monmouth Diner.........the owner Manny is a legend in Joyzee for his classic cars!!

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  • mch
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    Thanks guys for such additional information. As shared, Crown Tire in NJ is open to removing and replacing all the tires (spare included) on both my 64 Avanti R2 and 64 Super Hawk R1 with the Cooper tire. Also, the pair I have on my 63 GT Hawk which I bought maybe a year + ago, are perfectly white. What a shame about lack of quality control, as those are really nice tires both in appearance and certainly performance.
    Ill keep you posted once I get the new Cooper tires and how they look
    Mark

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  • acolds
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    I use Mister Clean magic eraser on my white walls Hankock on my Olds and Diamond Back on Clipper. I use Comet on Hankock regular detergent on Diamond Backs once I scuffed a Diamond Back a little hard used scotch brite pad to take care of mark. The diamond backs are Cooper tires which cost twice what the narrow white wall Hankocks cost. I have had Michelin Bf Goodrich and Uniroyal all on same car at different time for the money Uniroyal is best for money and mileage Michelin over price living of reputation just my take on tires

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  • fh4ever
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    Michelin bought Goodrich and Uniroyal around 1990 to increase their market share. Michelin being a premium tire is tier 1 , with Goodrich and Uniroyal as tier 2 and tier 3 respectively to catch all markets. Uniroyal is the "economy" brand.

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  • studegary
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    Originally posted by 345 DeSoto View Post
    I bought a set of American Classics (Cooper Tire) 215/75X15 radials for my Sky Hawk. The white walls are white and they stayed that way. Coopers are American made. Wesleys has changed their formula and it does not work NEARLY as well as the original. Brillo works wonders on white walls, however, I've never had to use them on the American Classics. I have several gallons of the original Wesleys, which should last me for as long as I'll need.
    The Westleys that I have is decades old. Perhaps that is why my results are different than for most using current product.

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  • 345 DeSoto
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    I bought a set of American Classics (Cooper Tire) 215/75X15 radials for my Sky Hawk. The white walls are white and they stayed that way. Coopers are American made. Wesleys has changed their formula and it does not work NEARLY as well as the original. Brillo works wonders on white walls, however, I've never had to use them on the American Classics. I have several gallons of the original Wesleys, which should last me for as long as I'll need.

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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    Originally posted by Jerry Forrester View Post
    What's wrong with you Dick?
    I read that entire article and not once did I see anything about white wall tires. LOL.
    Any car that looks good with white walls....looks better without them.

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  • mch
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    I saw an example of a Cooper tire that will have the same size as both sets of tires for both cars. This week Ill install one set on the Super Hawk R1 and give it a month before I order another set for the Avanti R2. I am fortunate that my long term relationship with Crown Tire in NJ stands strong and takes customer service serious.

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  • GTHawk
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    Originally posted by mch View Post
    2 months ago I bought 2 sets of Michelin tires for my 64 Avanti R2 and my 64 Super Hawk R1. These were Tiger Paw white walls. After many attempts and cleaning choices the white walls stayed yellowish and brownish. The local tire store I have used for well over a decade, replaced both sets TWICE. After all the scrubbing of the blue paint around the white walls, the white walls still showed yellow and brown stains. The tire dealer was great, he too called Micheline and was given full credit on the second set too. I ordered a set of Cooper tires; white walls, will see next week what those look like.
    What a damm shame the quality has so deteriorated from Micheline. Those tire were great and really made a difference. Last year and a half ago I got a set for my 63 GT Hawk and they still look utiful.
    So, pay attention to whom you buy tires from and make sure if you do buy those Tiger Paws tires, they will give you the same service quality I am receiving.
    Mark
    Radial tires are not made of good stuff anymore, in my opinion. The only way I have been able to keep whitewall tires white is to buy Diamond Backs. As I understand it, they vulcanize white rubber onto a high quality tire and install a barrier between the black and the white so the black doesn't bleed through onto the whitewall. Because that bleeding is constant with these new radial whitewall tires and they simply will not come white, even when they are new. At least that has been my experience.
    And one more thing, you don't see whitewall tires on new cars because of this bleed through problem. Diamond Backs are a little more expensive but, if you want whitewalls, that is what you have to do.

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  • Jerry Forrester
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    What's wrong with you Dick?
    I read that entire article and not once did I see anything about white wall tires. LOL.

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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    https://www.utires.com/articles/tire...brown-prevent/

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  • rockne10
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    Westley's Bleche-Wite is highly alkaline! It does a great job. But the way it does that job is by disintegration of the top most surface of your tires. And it has no respect for your paint, mag or aluminum wheels, skin, sinuses, etc. I don't think the folks at Black Magic, who now own Westley's, really have the best interests of your tires in mind.
    Be kind to your ride. Avoid acids and alkalis. Just use warm water, Simple Green and a fine Scotch-Brite pad.
    Then apply a quality dressing, such as Adam's VRT. Your tires will thank you.

    https://adamspolishes.com/products/a...-trim-dressing

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  • mch
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    Michelin owns Uniroyal. build date is recent. I tried 1 sample on each tire 1) Westley's, Brillo pad, & Mr Clean white sponge. Michelin also owns another tire company but I forgot which one

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  • studegary
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    Michelin and Tiger Paw do not go together for me. I thought that Tiger Paws were U S Rubber, UniRoyal or something else. Perhaps I haven't kept up with the combining of tire companies.
    What was the build date on the tires? Were they old stock?
    I, too, have used Westley's Bleache White. I use it sparingly, like at intervals of a year or more.

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