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  • #16
    Some of the hot rod shops around here are building very high horsepower engines based on E85 gas.
    Mono mind in a stereo world

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    • #17
      Originally posted by bob40 View Post
      Some of the hot rod shops around here are building very high horsepower engines based on E85 gas.
      There is no sweeter sound than a high performance motor on alcohol...

      Dick Steinkamp
      Bellingham, WA

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      • #18
        Some hot rods shops everywhere are building E 85 engines! he he he

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        • #19
          Some news from Maine, which was the first state to ban the MTBE additive.

          https://www.semasan.com/legislative-...vetoes-another
          Skip Lackie

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp View Post
            I'm sure it is not against the law to use it in a non FFV...just as you can fill your gasoline powered vehicle with diesel if you choose.

            FFV's are specially equipped to use it...

            E85 ethanol is used in engines modified to accept higher concentrations of ethanol. In the US such FFVs are designed to run on any mixture of gasoline or ethanol up to 85% ethanol, whereas in countries such as Brazil where the climate is typically warmer, FFV run on neat alcohol. There are a few major differences between FFVs and non-FFVs. One is the elimination of bare magnesium, aluminum, and rubber parts in the fuel system. Fuel injection control systems have a wider range of pulse widths to inject up to 34% more fuel (which in turn produces more power). Stainless steel fuel lines, sometimes lined with plastic, and stainless-steel fuel tanks in place of terne fuel tanks have been used. In some cases, FFVs use specific engine oil that neutralises acidity. For vehicles with in-tank-mounted fuel pumps, precautions to prevent arcing, as well as flame arrestors positioned in the tank's fill pipe, are sometimes used.

            ...but you're free to try it in anything.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85
            When I was in Rio de Janerio in 2007 I snapped a picture of a Texaco station with local fuel prices posted. I can't post the picture, but the prices were 2,59.9 Real per liter for gasolina (regular gasoline with ethanol in varying degrees), 1,69.9 Real per liter for Alcool, and 1,89.9 Real per liter for Diesel. A Real is worth about $.25 US dollar.

            One difference is that Brazilian alcohol is made from sugar cane. Production of sugar cane alcohol is more efficient than corn based alcohol. A very high percentage of Brazilian passenger cars run on 100% alcohol.

            A side note- Many if not all Sheetz stations in our part of the world now have 15% ethanol pumps in addition to the 10% ethanol regular pumps. The octane is listed as 88 and the price is 10 cents a gallon less than current 87 octane gasoline.
            Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
            '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

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            • #21
              Further developments:

              https://www.semasan.com/legislative-...-e-15-gasoline
              Skip Lackie

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