Question Answered: Why 44% don't have a clue....

[DEEPNHOCK]

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Did anyone else sell the fund-raiser World's Finest Chocolate? <snip>

I still remember buying some fund raiser chocolate bars from Ralph Freund in Huntley, IL back in the 80's. (See? I do hold grudges).
Ralph kept the cartons of chocolate bars on the top of his washing machine...Right next to the box of Tide powdered detergent.

Chocolate absorbs the Tide smell quite well

[BobPalma]

I still remember buying some fund raiser chocolate bars from Ralph Freund in Huntley, IL back in the 80's. (See? I do hold grudges).

Ralph kept the cartons of chocolate bars on the top of his washing machine...right next to the box of Tide powdered detergent.

Chocolate absorbs the Tide smell quite well.

Man, if you don't learn something new on this forum every day, you aren't paying attention! BP

[wittsend]

I think this addiction to living on debt has naturally gone down to the family level, and that is why so many young people are confused about the whole money thing. When we were young you saved your money until you could afford to buy what you wanted.

AGREED. I remember my dad putting portions of every pay check (cash) into envelopes each week and at the end of the month paying the bills. I don't think they had a checking account and they sure didn't have a credit card. It rubbed off on me. The only debt I've ever carried is the mortgage (15 year, not 30 year) on my first house and I borrowed $90 from my brother to buy motorcycle insurance and paid him back at the end of the week. Yea, today we have credit cards, but pay them off fully at the end of the month. And it seems to have trickled down to my Millennial children too. For that I'm very thankful.

[8E45E]

There is a noticeable move away from hiring school age kids here.

What's with your fine city? http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada...&ocid=SK216DHP

When I lived in Edmonton, we had school bus passes for those who needed it to ride Edmonton Transit (not the typical yellow school buses) starting from early grade school. And many who had 'after school' jobs would use public transportation to get to work.

In fact, when I lived there, they raised the adult fares from 25 cents to 35 cents and there was great city counsel debate over raising 'under 16' fares from 10 cents at it is the only way someone under that age can travel if there is no driver for the family car to take them.

Craig

[rodnutrandy]

Bob , I was born in 1951 , My father carried mail and my Mother ran a restaurant . I mowed the home and Restaurant Yards when 13 , At 16 when I got my license I custom baled for $1 a hour , At 17 worked for a filling station after school and weekends l Went to auto mechanic school after High School, but still worked at Filling station week days and week ends . Can't say I did hard work at the station , but was their when I was supposed to be . Update to When I was 60. Job I had been at 18 years was going down the tubes . Took a test for a job that was for Kenworth Truck or Dupont Paint . Was called by Kenworth . First thing they asked was why I didn't apply for higher position, My reply was I was happy as a laborer . I asked why they hired me at 60. Their reply was a 60 year old will come to work . I found out what they meant . 12 of us were hired, the first week, 8 quit because work was to hard . This was a $26 a hour job and I thought a easy job .

[JRoberts]

I'm Old School and tough love kind of Dad.

Both of my children had/have jobs since Jr year in HS, correlating to the time they got their drivers licences.

My daughter at 16.5 and son at 16.75. And that was basically at gun point as noted that today's youth are delaying getting licence.

Once they had their drivers licence, they had an additional chore. Buying Groceries, taking their window screens to get them fixed, etc.

Yesterday my son 17, started his Dream job, Working for a movie theater, only after working pushing grocery carts for a year..

My daughter worked through HS and now is at college. She works summers, sometime two jobs to save up so she can just study..

Last night she was on Face time as she changed the flat tire on her car, by herself.

She did not Face time me to ask me what a lug wrench was like the two girlymen on on that insurance commercial, or to had "daddy" call AAA to change it, but she just wanted to let me know she was OK and would be late for our schedule call later that evening..

10 min later she was in the car and heading back to her apartment. She is 19.

Back to that Insurance commercial. Its sad to see them portraying young men as basically "pussy's"

“We’re a generation of men raised by women. I’m wondering if another woman is really the answer we need.”
-- Fight Club.

Waylon Jennings was wrong to sing:
"Mama don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys
Don't let 'em pick guitars and drive them old trucks
Let 'em be doctors and lawyers and such.."

It should be"
"Daddy don't let your babies grow up to be pussies
Don't let 'em be swayed by movie-stars, or football players
Let 'em pick guitars and drive them old trucks..

?????????? I'm thinking much of this is uncalled for.

[t walgamuth]

Uh, Tom; I'm not sure what you're looking for is within Seb's writing, there. It seems complimentary to his daughter in all respects, as well as women in general. What am I missing here?

Anyway, this has proven to be an interesting thread indeed. 'Good to hear of everyone's varied experiences as youngsters. More are always solicited. BP

You think its ok to call men Pussies? ...girlymen?

I have six sisters, four daughters and six grand daughters and I'd have to say none are without courage.

I'd say calling someone that should be a compliment not a derogatory term.

As for changing a flat tire, who cares who can do it or not? If they learned some other useful skill and can pay someone to change their tire so what?

[jclary]

You think its ok to call men Pussies? ...girlymen?

I have six sisters, four daughters and six grand daughters and I'd have to say none are without courage.

I'd say calling someone that should be a compliment not a derogatory term.

As for changing a flat tire, who cares who can do it or not? If they learned some other useful skill and can pay someone to change their tire so what?

DISCLAIMER...I'm conflicted about this post. It will be easy to call it a personal attack on the member quoted above. But it is not. In general, there are a mere few here who seem to have some kind of raw nerve seeking any sliver of a chance to cry foul! However, The result was a personal attack, and has prompted what follows.

So...here we are. A bunch of folks, bonded in friendship with a common interest. No restrictions on ethnicity, wealth, social standing, or education. No restrictions on whether you are sick, healthy, skinny, fat, tall, short, a good speller, eloquent, or an inept illiterate. Although we are bonded with our common interests, we cannot escape WHO WE ARE, and in the course of our DISCOURSE...reveal the baggage accumulated in living.

Some, overcome life's obstacles, accept it's imperfections, and enjoy the trip. Others, wrap themselves in misery, harp at, nit pic, and complain about anyone who refuses to kowtow to such miserable standards. A sad way to live, while attempting to elevate oneself by pointing out the faults of others. But have cheer...be thankful for those with imperfect abilities to express themselves. For without US...who then... would be left to criticize so the elitists could feel superior?

So...to "t walgamuth," through the years, I've enjoyed your contributions to Studebaker topics, and don't recall us having ill words toward each other. This has been on my mind, and your post "flipped the switch." I too have six sisters, one daughter, and one granddaughter, and enough relatives of both sexes to occupy a whole county!

When it comes to COURAGE...probably takes a lot of it to admit that we all share the same DNA. When we have family gatherings...Tender souls afraid of perceived derogatory comments...well, they just don't have as good a time as the rest.

[t walgamuth]

I'm not afraid of degrading talk, I just don't think it's right. I cannot imagine how you can twist that into a personal attack in your mind.

The correct term is coward. The point can be made without degrading anybody other than the coward.

[556063]

1) Operated a lawn mowing business at age 12-16 . Bent the crank on my Dad's Briggs & Stratton push lawnmower on a TV tower base at one of my 15 customers, and bought replacement parts and performed labor to fix push mower myself. Continued business along with South Bend Tribune paper route that I took from 20 to 37 customers. All before Freshman year in High School.

2) Took first real job Sophomore year at Grocery Store managed by my neighbor, and continued all the previous business activities until I was approached by my uncle to help farm. Worked with customers to help find another young vendor to perform lawn care. Resigned from Tribune Route, and continued to get calls from Circulation Manager next two years begging me to come back.

3) Spoiled kids from the absolute stupidity of the last 10 years would have no clue about what I did.

[jnormanh]

Whoa!

Lots of stories about shouldering the burdens, working hard as youngsters.

As a matter of fact I grew up in SD. Lots of ice and snow and below zero temperatures during the winter.

I had to walk to school, starting in the first grade. It was bitter cold, icy and snowy, and a two mile walk.

Uphill.

Both ways.

[556063]

Whoa!

Lots of stories about shouldering the burdens, working hard as youngsters.

As a matter of fact I grew up in SD. Lots of ice and snow and below zero temperatures during the winter.

I had to walk to school, starting in the first grade. It was bitter cold, icy and snowy, and a two mile walk.

Uphill.

Both ways.

No "whoa" about it. The kids that behave the way I did today are targets, not the norm. And, that's the problem.

[556063]

On a lighter side note, I bent the crank on my Dad's mower when I ran over the TV tower base of my customer, Mrs. Studebaker. I asked her more than once if she was related to the South Bend Studebakers, but her husband that had passed away long before I mowed her lawn came from Wabash County, IN, and was probably related in some manner, but not directly. I mowed the lawns of more than a dozen widowed ladies in my neighborhood, and Mrs. Studebaker was one of them.

[DEEPNHOCK]

The kids are handicapped by a lack of quality parenting. Shoot, half the parents learned parenting from outside the family.
And that permeates right into the educational system.

Quality does not equate to caring.
You have to teach the young kids. Teach them right/wrong, good/bad, pain/pleasure, paying th price to do it right, effort/reward.
Not preaching here, but using those insurance company commercials as an example..
I would be an embarrassed parent if my kid did not know what a lug wrench was, or how to use it.
Parents today want to be their kids 'friend'. That is not a parents job.

[BobPalma]

I would be an embarrassed parent if my kid did not know what a lug wrench was, or how to use it.
Parents today want to be their kid's 'friend'. That is not a parent's job.

BINGO! I know that thought it not original to you, Jeff, nor would you claim it is, but it is nonetheless spot-on. BP