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  • lynn fletcher
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    Thank you all for in depth lesson on Studebaker horse drawn.

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  • tomsamson
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    It should be noted that Kentucky Wagon Manufacturing only bought the Farm Wagon business from Studebaker.

    The Dump Wagon business was sold to the Western Wheeled Scraper Company (part of the Austin-Western Road Machinery Company). They manufactured a wagon know as the "Western-Studebaker" through the mid-1920s.

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  • jclary
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    Originally posted by 2moredoors View Post
    Was my posting quoting http://wheelsthatwonthewest.blogspot...ky-wagons.html, not credible (lol). Please don't take offence but my posting preceded yours.
    No offense taken at all. You probably posted while I was contemplating my post. Around here, I sometimes start a post, get called away, come back to the computer, and finish what I was typing.

    Like this post...that was interrupted by the poodle coming into the room to demand I let him go outside and pee on the cat.

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  • 2moredoors
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    Originally posted by jclary View Post
    I have been waiting for someone with, credible knowledge, (not me), to contribute comments regarding the Kentucky Wagon Mfg. Company. It is my understanding, that Studebaker sold them the right, (and perhaps some tooling), to use their designs to the Louisville based company. They continued for some time, to manufacture and sell farm wagons labeled "THE STUDEBAKER WAGON" after 1920. I'm not sure of the details, or for how long they continued. However, I suspect, like many entrepreneurial enterprises, their business morphed into other markets. I wouldn't be surprised, if there are contemporary corporate entities, (just like Studebaker) whose foundation roots can be traced back to the original company.
    Was my posting quoting http://wheelsthatwonthewest.blogspot...ky-wagons.html, not credible (lol). Please don't take offence but my posting preceded yours.

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  • Avantidon
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    The longest Studebaker related dealer still in existence today? I would suspect so. Yes, I know they aren't building Studebakers but they sold them for 50 years as they received a 50 year dealer plaque that Mike still has in in his possession.

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  • rockne10
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    In 1868 Jonas Swab started Swab Wagon Company in Elizabethville, PA. By 1899 they were putting out five wagons per day; and was incorporated in 1902.
    With the advent of horseless, Swab began making bodies for primarily trucks. In 1916 Swab entered the automobile business selling several brands, but primarily Studebakers, while still making various service bodies.
    In 1960 Swab president Jonas Margerum (father of the world famous SDC and ASC member Mike Margerum) saw the writing on the wall for Studebaker and secured a Chrysler-Plymouth franchise. That franchise was closed in 2003.
    However, through it all, and continuing today, the Swab Wagon Company manufactures fire, rescue and service bodies to customer specifications.

    http://www.swabwagon.com/history

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  • studeclunker
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    If you like Tom, I can go through my library when next I'm in Fawn Lodge. There are three books, I think, that deal directly with this subject.

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  • jclary
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    Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel View Post
    Last buggies, carriages, harness etc. was 1919. Last wagons 1920. The very last farm wagon is in the SNM on display.
    I have been waiting for someone with, credible knowledge, (not me), to contribute comments regarding the Kentucky Wagon Mfg. Company. It is my understanding, that Studebaker sold them the right, (and perhaps some tooling), to use their designs to the Louisville based company. They continued for some time, to manufacture and sell farm wagons labeled "THE STUDEBAKER WAGON" after 1920. I'm not sure of the details, or for how long they continued. However, I suspect, like many entrepreneurial enterprises, their business morphed into other markets. I wouldn't be surprised, if there are contemporary corporate entities, (just like Studebaker) whose foundation roots can be traced back to the original company.

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  • 2moredoors
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    http://wheelsthatwonthewest.blogspot...ky-wagons.html
    This site is a brief history of Kentucky Wagon Company who bought out Studebaker Wagon patterns around 1920. They are still in business building trailers. For a brief period (late teen to early twenties) they manufactured automobiles. The Dixie Flyer was an example. I don't know whether they can be classified as an example of a wagon builder entering successfully into the automobile business as they were in and out of autos over a short period of time however they did/have made a transition from wagons to modern industry.

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  • tomsamson
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    Studeclunker -

    Thanks for the book reference. I had not heard of that one before and will be adding it to my library.

    Tom

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  • 2moredoors
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    I have attended a heritage fair in a nearby town for the past few years. One of their displays is a vintage garage in which they have displayed a 1913 McLaughlin. It has a mostly original wooden body, it is Buick powered. The auto body owner who painted my '66 Cruiser had that vehicle in his body shop to repair and paint the fenders. I took pictures of it in the body shop.

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  • studeclunker
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    Originally posted by 2moredoors View Post
    The McLaughlin name carried on until the beginning of WWII as the Canadian made "McLaughlin Buick". The Buick powered McLaughlin was manufactured in Canada until as you point out McLaughlin was purchased by GM, around 1917. Sam McLaughlin who had taken his family carriage company into the automobile business by using Buick engines (under license) in the McLaughlin cars carried on as President of GM Canada for many years He was well into his nineties when he died still active in the company.
    Well, one of his carriages is still in active use here in California. Also, McLaughlin is one of the most commonly seen Sleighs, often restored and still in regular winter use (especially in Canada). In fact, Todd Frey (Colonial Carriages) has a beautiful McLaughlin Sleigh currently for sale on Facebook.

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  • 2moredoors
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    Originally posted by studeclunker View Post
    Several carriage and wagon works transitioned into the auto-motive age by making other things, like heavy trailers, transports, and ambulances. Studebaker is the only one that actually continued on with the same name and reputation. McLaughlin shut down completely, however they were purchased for the body shop in order to build G.M. car and truck bodies. You might look into a book called Memories Of The Buggy Days. It specifically covers this subject and gives the names of the companies after the transition. Many are still in business, like Fischer, who still builds and designs luxury car bodies.
    The Majority of the carriage builders just closed shop and retired.
    The McLaughlin name carried on until the beginning of WWII as the Canadian made "McLaughlin Buick". The Buick powered McLaughlin was manufactured in Canada until as you point out McLaughlin was purchased by GM, around 1917. Sam McLaughlin who had taken his family carriage company into the automobile business by using Buick engines (under license) in the McLaughlin cars carried on as President of GM Canada for many years He was well into his nineties when he died still active in the company.

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  • doug
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    I'll bet more than a few Studebakers built up the late twenties were horse drawn at one time or another.

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  • studeclunker
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    Several carriage and wagon works transitioned into the auto-motive age by making other things, like heavy trailers, transports, and ambulances. Studebaker is the only one that actually continued on with the same name and reputation. McLaughlin shut down completely, however they were purchased for the body shop in order to build G.M. car and truck bodies. You might look into a book called Memories Of The Buggy Days. It specifically covers this subject and gives the names of the companies after the transition. Many are still in business, like Fischer, who still builds and designs luxury car bodies.
    The Majority of the carriage builders just closed shop and retired.

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