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    Good day Studebaker folks. Some of you may recognize my user name from my participation on the Studebaker Truck farmers board. I am the owner of a 56 E series Pickup. A friend and I are contemplating entering the Trans America Enduro Road Rally put on by the folks that do the Peking to Paris Endurance Rally. Similar to a Great Race type event but with some special tests.

    The event is scheduled over 23 days from mid May to early June of 2018. It begins in Charleston, SC and ends in Seattle, Wa, transiting through Charlotte, Ashville, Nashville, Memphis, South to New Orleans, then through Texas, Colorado, and Utah and finally north to Seattle.

    We are aware of a 1962 Hawk GT that needs some work but looks like a solid contender to be developed into the kind of vehicle that will do well on such an event. It is a 4BBl, 4 Speed car with TT. If we go that way we will be looking for lots of information regarding work and modifications necessary to turn a 54 year old car into a reliable endurance vehicle. A roll bar is not required but we will likely install one.

    We would like to utilize larger than stock tires on wider wheels, upgraded front suspension, larger sway bar, adjustable shocks and disc brakes if not already equipped, or replace the front end with a Jaguar or Crown Victoria cross member set up. What might be necessary to do to the rear end, stuff like busings, sway bar or panhard rod.

    And cuz we are old fahrts perhaps even add AC. I know the capabilities of the 289, so if it needs work it would be put back to as close to stock as possible with the possible exception of some head milling to bump compression a bit. Would we need to consider enhancing the cooling system for work in high temperatures.

    link to event

    http://www.endurorally.com/pages/trans-america-2018-news

    We would certainly appreciate any and all help and experience that folks have in setting up a Hawk for what will be a high performance style driving environment with several special tests, perhaps laps at race tracks along the way, fast as you can on a closed road section, or auto cross style timing tests, maybe a hill climb

    Any and all input is appreciated as we contemplate the event, the car, the set up and the expenses involved.

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    Greetings, and welcome to the Forum. I cannot answer your questions, however, this might be a good topic to take to the "Racing Studebakers" Forum. You can start a thread to document your progress as well as get some great input from the members who are Studebaker race car specialists. These guys build cars for drag racing, Bonneville and dry lake racing, as well as the La Carrera Pan Americana race down in Mexico. Here is a link -- http://racingstudebakers.com/foo/index.php
    Ed Sallia
    Dundee, OR

    Sol Lucet Omnibus

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    • #3
      yes I went there yesterday as it would not accept my e mail address as being valid, so I thought I would come here. Is there a way to contact the guys over there to see why my address isn't being accepted?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by plym_46 View Post
        yes I went there yesterday as it would not accept my e mail address as being valid, so I thought I would come here. Is there a way to contact the guys over there to see why my address isn't being accepted?
        Go to their main index page and look down at the bottom. You will see a list of registered users. Click on "Administrators". Right now you will see that Sonny is logged on in this capacity. Click on "e-mail Sonny". The next page will allow you to send him an e-mail where you can ask him your question.
        I just realized this may no work if you are not logged on. Send me a PM with your e-mail address and I can pass it along for you.
        Ed Sallia
        Dundee, OR

        Sol Lucet Omnibus

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        • #5
          Sound like a fun adventure, you can swap out the front frame clip to one of those described or go with one designed for that frame.
          http://www.industrialchassisinc.com/?cat=8, they make both front clip and full frames
          Attached Files
          Bill Foy
          1000 Islands, Ontario
          1953 Starlight Coupe

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          • #6
            You may be interested in the 1953 Commander Starlight that is in this month's "Turning Wheels". It has begun the transformation into a Mexican Road Race car. It has a pro built front frame section (looked like 2" X 4"), Corvette front suspension installed, etc. The car is in Poughkeepsie, NY, so not too far for you. I have no personal connection to the car, it just came to mind.
            Last edited by studegary; 08-22-2016, 02:47 PM.
            Gary L.
            Wappinger, NY

            SDC member since 1968
            Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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            • #7
              Thanks Ed, I sent the webmaster an e mail regarding the situation.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by studegary View Post
                You may be interested in the 1953 Commander Starlight that is in this month's "Turning Wheels". It has begun the transformation into a Mexican Road Race car. It has a pro built front frame section (looked like 2" X 4"), Jaguar front suspension installed, etc. The car is in Poughkeepsie, NY, so not too far for you. I have no personal connection to the car, it just came to mind.
                That's a bout a three hour trip for me or a bit more. Thanks for the heads up though.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by plym_46 View Post
                  That's a bout a three hour trip for me or a bit more. Thanks for the heads up though.
                  Yes, I know that it is not in your back yard, but it is not across the country. In general, a 3 hour trip is short for looking for a Studebaker. I just thought that much of the work that you desire is done in a usable car. Doesn't matter to me, one way or the other. Thanks for responding.
                  Gary L.
                  Wappinger, NY

                  SDC member since 1968
                  Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                  • #10
                    A friend of mine has a project 51 coupe that might work. It has professionally installed mustang in front, 9" ford rear, and all the parts, including a/c to make it a comfortable cruiser. It currently is without engine or trans, but he does have tremec 5spd and a chev 350. If you want to keep it stude, I have several engines that could be rebuilt. Let me know if you are interested and I can put you in contact.
                    78 Avanti RQB 2792
                    64 Avanti R1 R5408
                    63 Avanti R1 R4551
                    63 Avanti R1 R2281
                    62 GT Hawk V15949
                    56 GH 6032504
                    56 GH 6032588
                    55 Speedster 7160047
                    55 Speedster 7165279

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                    • #11
                      Gary L. are you saying this car is for sale or might be a prototype for what we might be doing?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by plym_46 View Post
                        Gary L. are you saying this car is for sale or might be a prototype for what we might be doing?
                        It is definitely for sale. Refer to the classified ad for it in this month's "Turning Wheels".
                        Gary L.
                        Wappinger, NY

                        SDC member since 1968
                        Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                        • #13
                          Why not just run the Stude stock with the original components. Rebuild your brakes, rear end and front suspension if necessary and then tweak the engine? If you're going to enter it as a Stude why not keep it Stude? 23 Days? They must have a lot of events planned between start and finished because that's waaaaay more time than what's needed to run that route.
                          Mike O'Handley, Cat Herder Third Class
                          Kenmore, Washington
                          hausdok@msn.com

                          '58 Packard Hawk
                          '05 Subaru Baja Turbo
                          '71 Toyota Crown Coupe
                          '69 Pontiac Firebird
                          (What is it with me and discontinued/orphan cars?)

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                          • #14
                            Yes it does seem a long time. from what I understand the daily run covers about 300 timed miles.But with cars starting at one minute intervals it takes a couple hours just to get every one on to the days route, add in unscored transits from the end of one competitive section to another, with stops for timing check points,meal breaks and special sections, it is a full day with a lot of hurry up and wait stuff in between. Plan to keep it as much Stude as possible but with a bit better handling and stopping than would be typical of a 50 plus year old car. In the long run its more about reliability than all out speed, but enhancements of capabilities is a good thing.

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