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    Would a '55-'64 Studebaker C-K model have left the factory with 'oval' or 'round' bumper face bar-to-bracket retaining bolts at the outer ends of its front and rear bumpers?...Opinions?

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    Ed,
    I have often heard there are variances, from year to year, but do not know that for a fact.

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    • #3
      Most of the ones I have removed were round, but some 40-50 years things do get changed from time to time, my guess is round.
      Candbstudebakers
      Castro Valley,
      California


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      • #4
        Round is what I have seen. The parts books should tell us the real story
        Milt

        1947 Champion (owned since 1967)
        1961 Hawk 4-speed
        1967 Avanti
        1961 Lark 2 door
        1988 Avanti Convertible

        Member of SDC since 1973

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        • #5
          Originally posted by unclemiltie View Post
          Round is what I have seen. The parts books should tell us the real story
          Yes, I guess the parts book would indicate a different bolt for the ends of the front & rear bumpers.....There's a really nice '58 Golden on e-bay right now with ovals up front and 'rounds' in the rear....which may just be correct!

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          • #6
            I had a combination of round and oval on my 56J and points were deducted, the parts book only lists the round part number. My $0.02.
            sigpicIt is an addiction!

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            • #7
              Meshach has oval, front and rear, never had the bumpers off. Lazarus has no bumper, yet (55 K Commander, 55 Speedster)

              Bob Miles
              Tucson AZ
              Home of Lazarus and Meshach

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              • #8
                I always thought that oval for everything EXCEPT the outer rear.
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                • #9
                  The 55 1st series K Commander that I have has oval bumper bolts all the way around. I cannot speak for all the other models. This is what drives people off the deep end when they are trying to get things right and Studebaker made running changes on the cars even within the same year. Since we are not privy to why changes were made (supply, cost issues etc), trying to put things together some 60-50 years later can be a challenge.

                  Since I have not and will not ever show a car for judging, I guess I am condemned to have fun driving and just letting people see the car. If someone wants to run down my car, well if I had a hearing aid, I would turn it off. I guess I will let them enjoy their freedom of speech and opinion.

                  That is what I am doing now; expressing an opinion with no offense intended.

                  Bob Miles
                  Tucson AZ
                  Home of Lazarus and Meshach

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                  • #10
                    My '57 Clipper wagon had both styles although I neglected to take note of their original positions. Silly me.
                    Bill

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                    • #11
                      Ovals were on all the way around on the '57 GH when I bought it.
                      They were on long enough that I had to split the nuts to get them off............
                      They were replaced with new ovals.

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                      • #12
                        My 61 Hawk has ovals all around except for the two bolts in the center on the rear bumper which are round. Oddly enough I had never paid much attention until now. I don't know why the two rear center bolts would be round if they are original except to say "its a Studebaker" expect the unexpected.

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                        • #13
                          In the early 1970s, a former head mechanic at a Studebaker dealer told me that the end bolts should be round and the others were rectangular. About the same time, I redid a '53 Commander Starliner that was original and I knew since new. It had round head bolts at the ends. Since then, I am not convinced that this was a hard and fast rule. They may have received different bolts in build or it may have depended on supply or it may have resulted from reducing part numbers to stock/supply.

                          I just looked at a factory photo of the rear of a 1953 C/K. The face bolts are rectangular and the end bolts are round headed.
                          Gary L.
                          Wappinger, NY

                          SDC member since 1968
                          Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                          • #14
                            I've had a great many 1955's over the years, all of which have had oval bolts. Had 53's and 54's as well, and never saw a round bolt on any of them.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hallabutt View Post
                              I've had a great many 1955's over the years, all of which have had oval bolts. Had 53's and 54's as well, and never saw a round bolt on any of them.
                              Seeing as how you reside in WA, is it possible that the 1953-1955s that you are referring to were Vernon/LA built cars (that had variations from the South Bend cars - the vast majority of build)? Perhaps they just wanted to stock/use one less part in CA.
                              Gary L.
                              Wappinger, NY

                              SDC member since 1968
                              Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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