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  • Newby Question... Starlight vs. Starliner?

    In trying to do some research on my car I only seem to get myself more and more confused. I found a few (FEW) more pics on the internet of '58's like mine. Some of the captions call it a Starliner instead of a Starlight and vise / versa. Was this just a different trim package? The only real difference I saw was one of them wasn't two tone at all and one had a Continental kit thing on top of the trunk lid.

    http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/St...er/TheEnd.html

    It's about halfway down. More of them are referred to as Starliners.

    Chris Salisbury
    Hutto/Austin, TX

    1958 Commander Starlight Hardtop

  • #2
    Again, the hard tops were call Starlights in 1958 only since Ford had taken the rights to the Starliner name.

    JDP/Maryland
    63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
    spent to date $54718.75
    64 R2 GT (Sid)
    spent to date $62,439.30
    63 Lark 2 door
    54 Starlight
    52 Starliner
    51 Commander
    39 Coupe express
    39 Coupe express (rod)

    JDP Maryland

    Comment


    • #3
      Again, the hard tops were call Starlights in 1958 only since Ford had taken the rights to the Starliner name.

      JDP/Maryland
      63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
      spent to date $54718.75
      64 R2 GT (Sid)
      spent to date $62,439.30
      63 Lark 2 door
      54 Starlight
      52 Starliner
      51 Commander
      39 Coupe express
      39 Coupe express (rod)

      JDP Maryland

      Comment


      • #4
        Sheesh... I was just askin' as I saw conflicting information on the website. I'll inform the website owner of the error so newbies like me don't get it wrong.

        Thanks,

        Chris Salisbury
        Hutto/Austin, TX

        1958 Commander Starlight Hardtop

        Comment


        • #5
          Sheesh... I was just askin' as I saw conflicting information on the website. I'll inform the website owner of the error so newbies like me don't get it wrong.

          Thanks,

          Chris Salisbury
          Hutto/Austin, TX

          1958 Commander Starlight Hardtop

          Comment


          • #6
            Sorry, I thought you were the same guy that I posted the explanation about a few days back. Here's what I posted:

            It gets more confusing, hardtops were call Starliners in 52-55, and Starlights WERE coupes. In 58, Ford had the rights to the Startliner name, thus the hardtop became a Starlight. Got that ?

            JDP/Maryland
            63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
            spent to date $54718.75
            64 R2 GT (Sid)
            spent to date $62,439.30
            63 Lark 2 door
            54 Starlight
            52 Starliner
            51 Commander
            39 Coupe express
            39 Coupe express (rod)

            JDP Maryland

            Comment


            • #7
              Sorry, I thought you were the same guy that I posted the explanation about a few days back. Here's what I posted:

              It gets more confusing, hardtops were call Starliners in 52-55, and Starlights WERE coupes. In 58, Ford had the rights to the Startliner name, thus the hardtop became a Starlight. Got that ?

              JDP/Maryland
              63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
              spent to date $54718.75
              64 R2 GT (Sid)
              spent to date $62,439.30
              63 Lark 2 door
              54 Starlight
              52 Starliner
              51 Commander
              39 Coupe express
              39 Coupe express (rod)

              JDP Maryland

              Comment


              • #8
                LOL... I think I got it now.

                For a new person that has only the VERY basic knowledge of Studebaker's existence... they have got to be one of the most confusing brands to get to know!!! Thank goodness I have a place like this to help me out! [^]

                Chris Salisbury
                Hutto/Austin, TX

                1958 Commander Starlight Hardtop

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                • #9
                  LOL... I think I got it now.

                  For a new person that has only the VERY basic knowledge of Studebaker's existence... they have got to be one of the most confusing brands to get to know!!! Thank goodness I have a place like this to help me out! [^]

                  Chris Salisbury
                  Hutto/Austin, TX

                  1958 Commander Starlight Hardtop

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I've been in the hobby for long time, and I learn something new everyday. You'll be fine, just hang in there.

                    JDP/Maryland
                    63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
                    spent to date $54718.75
                    64 R2 GT (Sid)
                    spent to date $62,439.30
                    63 Lark 2 door
                    54 Starlight
                    52 Starliner
                    51 Commander
                    39 Coupe express
                    39 Coupe express (rod)

                    JDP Maryland

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I've been in the hobby for long time, and I learn something new everyday. You'll be fine, just hang in there.

                      JDP/Maryland
                      63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
                      spent to date $54718.75
                      64 R2 GT (Sid)
                      spent to date $62,439.30
                      63 Lark 2 door
                      54 Starlight
                      52 Starliner
                      51 Commander
                      39 Coupe express
                      39 Coupe express (rod)

                      JDP Maryland

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        quote:Originally posted by JDP

                        Again, the hard tops were call Starlights in 1958 only since Ford had taken the rights to the Starliner name.

                        JDP/Maryland
                        You sure about that, John?

                        If that was the real reason Studebaker labeled the 1958 hardtops Starlights, Ford would have had to be awarded a trademark to Starliner sometime in 1957 at the latest. Ford first used the name Starliner on a car as the 1960 "fastroof" model (actually, they all were), introduced in the fall of 1959.

                        Skyliner, yes; the retractable hardtop...and even Sunliner, the conventional, soft-top convertible. But Starliner and Ford in 1957? Hmmm.... [:0][8D] BP

                        We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

                        Ayn Rand:
                        "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

                        G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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                        • #13
                          quote:Originally posted by JDP

                          Again, the hard tops were call Starlights in 1958 only since Ford had taken the rights to the Starliner name.

                          JDP/Maryland
                          You sure about that, John?

                          If that was the real reason Studebaker labeled the 1958 hardtops Starlights, Ford would have had to be awarded a trademark to Starliner sometime in 1957 at the latest. Ford first used the name Starliner on a car as the 1960 "fastroof" model (actually, they all were), introduced in the fall of 1959.

                          Skyliner, yes; the retractable hardtop...and even Sunliner, the conventional, soft-top convertible. But Starliner and Ford in 1957? Hmmm.... [:0][8D] BP

                          We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

                          Ayn Rand:
                          "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

                          G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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                          • #14
                            Bob, I may have repeated a urban legend, but that what I've read over the years. Why did Studebaker drop the Starliner name for the hardtops in 1958?

                            JDP/Maryland
                            63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
                            spent to date $54,758.75
                            64 R2 GT (Sid)
                            spent to date $62,439.30
                            63 Lark 2 door
                            54 Starlight
                            52 Starliner
                            51 Commander
                            39 Coupe express
                            39 Coupe express (rod)

                            JDP Maryland

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Bob, I may have repeated a urban legend, but that what I've read over the years. Why did Studebaker drop the Starliner name for the hardtops in 1958?

                              JDP/Maryland
                              63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
                              spent to date $54,758.75
                              64 R2 GT (Sid)
                              spent to date $62,439.30
                              63 Lark 2 door
                              54 Starlight
                              52 Starliner
                              51 Commander
                              39 Coupe express
                              39 Coupe express (rod)

                              JDP Maryland

                              Comment

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