1964 Champs - T-Cabs - 8Es - forum registry

[StudeRich]

Oh no, I am actually referring to #45. Sorry I'm still figuring out how this forum is set up!

Welcome Chris, to the SDC and to the SDC Forum!
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This is a very nice looking "T" Cab 8E7-112 T4 Standard Cab Champ Pickup.

The interior has been greatly upgraded with New redesigned Seat Covers and Door Panels.
Carpeting and a Deluxe Horn Ring from a '61-'66 Regal Lark Type have been added and an INSIDE Hood Release from a '59/'60 Lark, a good feature!

[62champ]

8E7-21253 - 122 WB - T6 cab - for sale on Ebay, January 2019. Note: The VIN indicates this was the third V8 1/2 ton truck built for the '64 model year.

Climitizer, overdrive

[studeclunker]

Has anyone seen one like this? The brakes on this are HUGE!

[StudeRich]

Looks like any '62 to '64 Deluxe Cab Champ with the Bed or Box removed, but that Rear End is likely from a Dually 1 Ton or Larger Truck, the Pic is not good enough to tell what front wheels it has.

[studeclunker]

the front wheels are the same.

[62champ]

8E7-21568 - 112 WB - T4 cab - advertised in Hemmings in an auto auction

Climiitizer, radio, lighter.

Information in write up: 1964 Studebaker Champion E721568 for sale. Primary damage: Roof, Secondary damage: All over, Sale document: Clear - dealer only, Sale status: Ready for sale, Loss: Other, Start code: Won't start, Odometer status: Not required/exempt, Fuel: Other, Transmission: Unknown

[62champ]

8E7-21426 - 122 WB - T4 cab - parts for sale on Studebaker Truck Talk website, May, 2019.

Unknown accessories. Description from entry: Truck E7-21426 is no longer.
An 8E7-122 that I am not able to restore.
The cab and bed were completely shot.
The engine and transmission went to my father-in-laws project.
The frame is supporting the other items you see in the pictures.
The rear window needs cleaned up.
Also have headlights and rings.

[StudeRich]

Have you EVER seen a Truck Serial Number Plate with rusty steel Rivets instead of Welds?
It has to be modified/removed/replaced.

[62champ]

Have you EVER seen a Truck Serial Number Plate with rusty steel Rivets instead of Welds?
It has to be modified/removed/replaced.

Don’t know why it is that way. This is another example of a VIN plate from a 7E12 attached the same way.

[Warren Webb]

#81 sold on 5/23 for $750 plus auction fees.

[AceGikmo]

E7-21903 An 8E7-122. With a New Process 5-Speed Overdrive transmission C-92802, and 259 block number 535601. It has a Stromberg WW 6-132 carburetor. I'm not sure which parts came with this truck, or were put in later by someone else. It may be towards the end of the production run, and they were just pulling parts here and there to make up a truck.

Here, hauling it into my quonset hut using a winch to get it up over the threshold.

Up on jackstands while I work on the steering gearbox.

The gearbox refurbished, cleaned and back in. And I notice that the cab sits on two 2x4" blocks of wood - with no plate to hold it to the frame.

The carburetor, rebuilt. The linkage doesn't look quite right to me. I haven't tried to start it yet. It was missing a thermostat housing. I was able to buy another carb from eBay and took the best parts of each. There was no fitting between the thermostatic choke and the breather to the valve cover, so I epoxied a tube into a bolt.

And when I was under it to replace the transmission oil, I discovered that the cab wasn't bolted to the frame. I suppose it wouldn't have been a problem unless I rolled it into a ditch.

[62champ]

Thanks Ace - good thing you found how the cab was mounted (or not) to the frame - not too much driving and it might have been bad news. There should be a rubber pad between the bolt and that out-rigger that the body rests on. In a pinch, I have seen an old tire sidewall used for that purpose. Along with the two bolts on the floor board, there are two bolts close together through the floor at the back of the cab - they go through a cross member to support the back of the cab. These will get bad enough floor rust that the floor boards will rot, and sag with the body eventually resting on the steering column - causing additional problems.

To find out what your truck was equipped with originally, you can order a production order from the Studebaker National Museum (https://www.studebakermuseum.org/sto...duction-orders). This is what was printed up by the factory as to what it left the production line with - but keep in mind - dealers would always add things to "dress" up a vehicle or at the request of the new owner. If your truck originally came with the 5 sp/OD, one indicator of that would be the steering wheel - if it is still original. Floor shift trucks came with the earlier round wheel found on '60 Larks back to '57 cars. Column shift trucks, starting in '61, had the oval wheel found in the Larks starting that year.

This is the wheel I am talking about - out of a known floor shift truck (although the cab paint is not original - wheel is correct)


Good luck and keep us posted as to your progress.

[StudeRich]

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/Cut/The carburetor, rebuilt. The linkage doesn't look quite right to me. I haven't tried to start it yet. It was missing a thermostat housing. I was able to buy another carb from eBay and took the best parts of each. There was no fitting between the thermostatic choke and the breather to the valve cover, so I epoxied a tube into a bolt./Cut/

Welcome to the SDC and to SDC Forum Ace! Glad to see ANOTHER New Washingtonian here!

You REALLY got me confused on this one!

The Thermostatic Choke Cover has a small tube that goes into another tube in the Center Heat/Exhaust Crossover Port of the Intake Manifold and looped back out, just to gather HEAT for the Automatic Choke.

None of this would be connected to or have anything to do with a "Valve Cover".
Of course all of this is on the Right Side of the Carb. so I can't see any of what you are talking about.

The Crankcase Breather system would be a PCV Valve connected by rubber Hose to the Tube coming out of the Back of the Carb. Base and connecting on it's other end to the rear of the Lifter Cover.

All of the Parts you describe and show look correct for a '64 V8, including that Stromberg Model WW 6-132 which IS a 1964 Carb.

We do not know of any last minute substitutions, parts shortages or mixed parts on ANY of the Last South Bend Studebaker Cars or Trucks.

All of the Correct Parts are very well called out and illustrated VERY well in the Studebaker 7E to 8E ('62-'64) Truck Parts Catalog.

< Here is a '63 or '64 Champ "T" Cab Pickup. (it enlarges 2 more times)
That curled Tube is the correct Choke Heater Tube going into the Intake Manifold.

NOTE: please pay NO attention to that Upper "Hot" Water Inlet Hose going to the Climatizer Heater Core, it is SUPPOSED to go to the Control VALVE to control the Temp. but this one is incorrectly routed to the Core, so it cannot be turned OFF and is running backwards.

[62champ]

8E7-21729 - 122 WB - T6 cab - for sale on Facebook Marketplace, June 2019.

Climitizer, four speed, lighter, radio

[thom]

I wish I had a '64 Champ to add to the list. A white, six cylinder, no-overdrive, three speed...