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    Have the hood down to the fiberglass on my Avanti.. Now the fun part..I want to prime the hood bottom & top but just paint the unserside, for now, until I get the rest of the car ready for paint.. What paint would you use, Dupont or PPG and does anyone have the code/mixture for Turquoise ????

    Also, it looks like Studebaker used a red based primer for the Avanti. I was going to use a lighter shade gray based primer. Anyone have any suggestions with that ?? Thanks.........

  • #2
    Are you gel-coating?
    "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

    Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
    Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
    sigpic'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée"

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    • #3
      Are you gel-coating?
      "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

      Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
      Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
      sigpic'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée"

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      • #4
        you can not gel coat fiberglas after it's cured! Gelcoat will only kick by reaction to the fiberglas curing.
        BUT, you can use Morton Paint "Eliminator" a fiberglas resin with gray color pigment added. If you use it, use a GOOD paint mask!!! NOT a paper one! and, cover everything that you do not want coated with gray "rock hard" overspray.
        Be sure to clean the spray gun out imeadiately after you are done, otherwise, toss it in the trash.
        Eliminator is Morton paints brand, about $100 a gallon, there is another on Feather Fill, but I have no personal experience with that.
        DuPont or PPG, they are both a good product, be sure to use the proper reducers and hardners with either one, IE: DuPont with DuPont, PPG with PPG. Mixing and matching is not a good idea. If you are going single stage, I'd use Centauri (DuPont) as it sprays almost like a lacquer. Bur again, a GOOD mask, preferably a "fresh air mask" but, a good charcoal mask will be ok too. Keep the mask in a sealed bag (ziplock) when not in use.
        BTW, once the "Eliminator" is on, dry sanding is almost impossible, but, it wetsands very easily. I use 320-400 grit wet and spray over that. Don't use anything finer then 400, as the surface will not be "course" enough for a good adheasion for the paint.

        Jim
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        • #5
          you can not gel coat fiberglas after it's cured! Gelcoat will only kick by reaction to the fiberglas curing.
          BUT, you can use Morton Paint "Eliminator" a fiberglas resin with gray color pigment added. If you use it, use a GOOD paint mask!!! NOT a paper one! and, cover everything that you do not want coated with gray "rock hard" overspray.
          Be sure to clean the spray gun out imeadiately after you are done, otherwise, toss it in the trash.
          Eliminator is Morton paints brand, about $100 a gallon, there is another on Feather Fill, but I have no personal experience with that.
          DuPont or PPG, they are both a good product, be sure to use the proper reducers and hardners with either one, IE: DuPont with DuPont, PPG with PPG. Mixing and matching is not a good idea. If you are going single stage, I'd use Centauri (DuPont) as it sprays almost like a lacquer. Bur again, a GOOD mask, preferably a "fresh air mask" but, a good charcoal mask will be ok too. Keep the mask in a sealed bag (ziplock) when not in use.
          BTW, once the "Eliminator" is on, dry sanding is almost impossible, but, it wetsands very easily. I use 320-400 grit wet and spray over that. Don't use anything finer then 400, as the surface will not be "course" enough for a good adheasion for the paint.

          Jim
          "We can't all be Heroes, Some us just need to stand on the curb and clap as they go by" Will Rogers

          We will provide the curb for you to stand on and clap!


          Indy Honor Flight www.IndyHonorFlight.org

          As of Veterans Day 2017, IHF has flown 2,450 WWII, Korean, and Vietnam Veterans to Washington DC at NO charge! to see
          their Memorials!

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          • #6
            I used this spray gel coat on my Avanti to seal loose strands from sanding.





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            • #7
              I used this spray gel coat on my Avanti to seal loose strands from sanding.





              http://www.zip-products.com/Zip/prod...RID=BAN_Beyond

              JDP/Maryland
              64 R2 GT cost to date
              $60,222.25
              63 GT Hawk
              63 Lark 2 door
              59 Scotsman
              54 Starlight
              52 Starliner
              51 Commander
              39 Coupe express
              39 Coupe express (rod)

              JDP Maryland

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              • #8
                I used 100 & wet sanded with 220 to get off as much old paint & primer on top..The bottom I was able to get most of the glue off and paint. The reason I had to do the top was that it was pitted down to the fiberglass. Dozens of small holes/bubbles..

                I have Dupont light grey epoxy primer sealer with hardner..I was going to try to paint just the bottom, leave the top prime until, if ever, I get the rest of the car done..

                I'm actually doing this in a body shop class so, I'm trying to get the best idea in getting it done right..Someone had mentioned to me about a fiberglass paint stripper but, the instructor said he's seen too many things go wrong with it. As far as the fiberglass, it looks smooth, no cuts at all into it..


                Appreciate the help/suggestions.. I'll ask him about the spray gel coat.

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                • #9
                  I used 100 & wet sanded with 220 to get off as much old paint & primer on top..The bottom I was able to get most of the glue off and paint. The reason I had to do the top was that it was pitted down to the fiberglass. Dozens of small holes/bubbles..

                  I have Dupont light grey epoxy primer sealer with hardner..I was going to try to paint just the bottom, leave the top prime until, if ever, I get the rest of the car done..

                  I'm actually doing this in a body shop class so, I'm trying to get the best idea in getting it done right..Someone had mentioned to me about a fiberglass paint stripper but, the instructor said he's seen too many things go wrong with it. As far as the fiberglass, it looks smooth, no cuts at all into it..


                  Appreciate the help/suggestions.. I'll ask him about the spray gel coat.

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                  • #10
                    Called the instructor this am & aked about the gel coating. Said he's never tried it and that my hood looked ok, no pitting, digging, etc from the sanding so, .. Have to take my trunk lid off and bring it to the store for them to match the paint..Have to admit, its a good learning experience...took me 2 classes to get the hood sanded down ..

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                    • #11
                      Called the instructor this am & aked about the gel coating. Said he's never tried it and that my hood looked ok, no pitting, digging, etc from the sanding so, .. Have to take my trunk lid off and bring it to the store for them to match the paint..Have to admit, its a good learning experience...took me 2 classes to get the hood sanded down ..

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                      • #12
                        The shops I've talked to strip paint from fibreglass by soda blasting; haven't been there, haven't done that.
                        "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

                        Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
                        Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
                        sigpic'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée"

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                        • #13
                          The shops I've talked to strip paint from fibreglass by soda blasting; haven't been there, haven't done that.
                          "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

                          Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
                          Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
                          sigpic'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée"

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                          • #14
                            Theres a soda blaster in the Eastwood catalog..Read some info on it..My 1st time doing body work so, I'm taking my time and trying to get as much info as possible on the best ways to do it. The instructor is about 25yrs teaching , I'm sure he's also set in his ways..The only trouble I'd have with the soda blasting is space. I have a 2 car garage and both my Avanti & Hawk are in it. Unfortunatley, property and space in Nrthrn NJ are at a premium so my work area is limited..

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                            • #15
                              Theres a soda blaster in the Eastwood catalog..Read some info on it..My 1st time doing body work so, I'm taking my time and trying to get as much info as possible on the best ways to do it. The instructor is about 25yrs teaching , I'm sure he's also set in his ways..The only trouble I'd have with the soda blasting is space. I have a 2 car garage and both my Avanti & Hawk are in it. Unfortunatley, property and space in Nrthrn NJ are at a premium so my work area is limited..

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