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    First, I apologize for a non-studebaker post. I am looking for anyone that may have knowledge of the use of the bendix bosch efi system in the late 60s. The stuff used on Fords is my interest. i suspect someone here may have some clues I need.

    Coralsnake68@hotmail.com

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    Try The Stovehuggers Forum. (?)

    Dean.

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    • #3
      The only Ford I'm aware that had fuel injection was Shelby's Green Hornet and that used a Conelec system. Bendix had the system that Chrysler used in '58 and i'm pretty sure they sold their patents to Bosch in the '60's. This is the basic system used in the Porsche 911.
      Last edited by Swifster; 07-01-2014, 08:15 PM.
      Tom - Bradenton, FL

      1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
      1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/OD

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dean pearson View Post
        Try The Stovehuggers Forum. (?)

        Dean.
        Studebaker sold Mercedes, Mercedes used Bosch EFI, so Stude content. A lot more eyes here than there. Possibly how he found us.

        Good Luck with your quest. Bob
        Last edited by sweetolbob; 07-01-2014, 06:16 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Swifster View Post
          The only Ford I'm aware that had fuel injection was Shelby's Green Hornet and that used a Conelec system. Bendix had the system that Chrysler used in '58 and i'm pretty sure they sold there patents to Bosch in the '60's. This is the basic system used in the Porsche 911.
          Thanks, the Conelec system was actually developed by a former Bendix employee. I noticed a lot of similarities with the Desoto system. I suspect Shelby also experimented with the Bendix Bosch system. That is what I am looking for...maybe working from the 50s forward might be easier than working backwards.

          http://www.thecoralsnake.com/Conelec
          Last edited by Coralsnake; 07-01-2014, 06:28 PM.

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          • #6
            Ak Miller used to do some fun things with turbo's and mechanical fuel injection....in the sixties...
            I liked his Ford six'es in Falcons....
            HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

            Jeff


            Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



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            • #7
              Didn't American Motors use fuel injection briefly in the late fifties? Don't know if that helps.

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              • #8
                AMC planned on using the Bendix EFI unit in '57 on the Rambler Rebel. AMC never put it in production, probably for the same reason Chrysler shouldn't have used it in '58. It wasn't reliable.

                Peter, I don't know how much help we can be. Studebaker never used the EFI unit from Bendix and Conelec wasn't in business until 1968 (two years after Studebaker ceased automotive production). While I'm sure Ford had an interest in stuff Shelby was doing, I don't know if they were anymore interested in EFI in 1969 than they were in his IRS on the Green Hornet. If the article is true, you stand a better chance to put together a Bendix unit for a '58 Chrysler 300D than you'll be with a complete Conelec system for a Shelby. Honestly, the car I'd like to see with that system would be the Hornet. Between that and the IRS system, that car would be a slick piece.

                I want to win the lottery so I can buy the Desoto. The EFI systems makes that car run like a freight train. I'm sure the same is true with a Mustang with an injected 428. The thought is still there to use a E-Street injection system on my '64 Daytona and making it look 'vintage'.

                UPDATE: Looking thru the internet, the son of the Bendix system was the Bosch D-Jetronic system used on the VW Squareback in '68. Same system as the Bendix with 'better parts'.
                http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/06/v...ddaddy-of-efi/
                Last edited by Swifster; 07-01-2014, 09:07 PM.
                Tom - Bradenton, FL

                1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
                1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/OD

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                • #9
                  Not to sure what you want to know but have you tried BMW forums. They used Bosch fuel injection and the information is plentiful. I have only driven olden BMW's with carbs but models of the same year had fuel injection. One thing comes to mind though is that they used a mechanical type injection and changed to electronic in about 76. So EFI might not be the exactly the right acronym. The 1975 I had was a carbed model but the next year, which I had as a parts car, had fuel injection but it had changed to the electronic type. It used to be a Bosch D-Jetronic then L-Jetronic. I have two BMW's now, a 2001 and a 2014, they are fuel injected but not what you are looking for. Bla, bla, bla....

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugelfischer

                  http://www.fuelinjectioncenter.com/

                  http://books.google.com/books?id=fVm...ection&f=false

                  http://www.firstfives.org/faq/ljet/jetronic.pdf

                  http://iedei.files.wordpress.com/201...30-09-2007.jpg

                  And the list goes on.

                  It all depends on what you want to know.

                  So, no I can't help with your Ford questions but other forums might.

                  Len.

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