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  • 4 door lark to 2 door

    Just wondering , can you change the rear quarters on a 4 door Lark to 2 door and end up with a 2 door sedan or is wheel base different ? Reason I ask , I would like a 2 door and most Larks seem to need rear fenders anyhow .
    Randy Wilkin
    1946 M5 Streetrod
    Hillsboro,Ohio 45133

  • #2
    What year Lark? If it's not a Cruiser I believe that the wheelbases were the same between most 2 doors and 4 doors. But, the front doors are longer on the two door than the four door. So if you tried to put on the 2 door quarter panels onto a 4 door sedan, wouldn't there be a big gap between the front of the quarter panel and the rear of the door? And if you tried to put the doors on from the 2 door you'd have to relocate the door post. Not to mention the changes needed for the rear side windows, hardware, etc. I suppose a talented body man could do anything if he worked hard enough at it, but I think this would be a very complicated change to try to accomplish.

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    • #3
      If Troy can do it with a Packard I don't see where it can't be done with a lark.

      http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...hlight=packard

      BTW, he also painted my 83 Avanti.

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      • #4
        Wow! A lot of work in that Packard. A talented and patient bodyman can do wonders, but converting a 4 door to a 2 door is not for the faint of heart and won't be done quickly.
        "In the heart of Arkansas."
        Searcy, Arkansas
        1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
        1952 2R pickup

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 52-fan View Post
          Wow! A lot of work in that Packard. A talented and patient bodyman can do wonders, but converting a 4 door to a 2 door is not for the faint of heart and won't be done quickly.
          The most interesting part is Troy is a part time builder (Hobbyist) and derives his full time income in the building trades. He's done two like this and several other rods of note.

          Bob

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          • #6
            I have a 4 door lark what would it look like if you just shaved the back doors . I think shaved is the right term .

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            • #7
              Larks shared the same wheelbase until 62 when all the 4 doors carried the longer wheelbase. The exception would be the 61 Cruiser which had the longer wheelbase compared to the regular 4 door sedan.
              59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
              60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
              61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
              62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
              62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
              62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
              63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
              63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
              64 Zip Van
              66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
              66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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              • #8
                You would have to do the same thing Studebaker did with the '53-'55 2 Door SEDAN.

                They used a Metal "T" Strip between the 4 Door Fender and the rear door "panel" with a 2 Door window that they made new. Then they used a longer 2 Dr. Sedan Front DOOR and moved the "B" Pillar back to fit.
                All using a 4 door BODY. You could make it prettier by welding the rear quarter seam.

                Really though, 2 Door '59-'60 Larks show up all the time on eBay & Craigslist for only double or less money than a 4 door. A way cheaper and easier way to go.
                StudeRich
                Second Generation Stude Driver,
                Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                • #9
                  It would probably be far easier (and maybe cheaper) to just buy a 2 door car. That said, since the 1st generation Ford Taurus, Nissan Maxima ("4 door sports car") and the BMW offerings the 4 doors have become far more acceptable with a performance image. 4 doors doesn't always translate well to 50's, 60's, 70's cars (my opinion the 4 door 57 Chevy being one of the worse) but other cars carry it better. With the cost of a 2 door, generally being more than a 4 door, and all older cars becoming less in numbers, I see the 4 door becoming more acceptable in the future.
                  '64 Lark Type, powered by '85 Corvette L-98 (carburetor), 700R4, - CASO to the Max.

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                  • #10
                    If I were gonna do all that it would be on a 63 or 64 wagonaire Daytona with R2 and 4 speed how cool would that be!!!
                    John

                    62' Deluxe R2 4SPD.

                    63' R1 Wagonaire

                    57' Transtar 259 punched to 312 NP540 4:09 TT Under Construction

                    58' 3E6D Stock 4X4

                    64' (Studebaker Built) Trailer Toter

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by wittsend View Post
                      It would probably be far easier (and maybe cheaper) to just buy a 2 door car. That said, since the 1st generation Ford Taurus, Nissan Maxima ("4 door sports car") and the BMW offerings the 4 doors have become far more acceptable with a performance image. 4 doors doesn't always translate well to 50's, 60's, 70's cars (my opinion the 4 door 57 Chevy being one of the worse) but other cars carry it better. With the cost of a 2 door, generally being more than a 4 door, and all older cars becoming less in numbers, I see the 4 door becoming more acceptable in the future.
                      Just like what happened with the old Fords. At one time the hot rodders mostly used sedans for parts for their roadsters and coupes.
                      "In the heart of Arkansas."
                      Searcy, Arkansas
                      1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
                      1952 2R pickup

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                      • #12
                        VERY .
                        Originally posted by 289stude View Post
                        If I were gonna do all that it would be on a 63 or 64 wagonaire Daytona with R2 and 4 speed how cool would that be!!!
                        Joseph R. Zeiger

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                        • #13
                          Last edited by sals54; 04-15-2014, 09:47 PM.
                          sals54

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                          • #14
                            What??? No takers??? Or am I alone in my principles??
                            sals54

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                            • #15
                              I guess it is of course a matter of OPINION. I think that you did a really Great job with the Photoshop tool, it is well done for the result you were looking for.

                              However some of us like myself may think that the 2 Doors look fine as is, and I don't see the improvement in stretching the back seat. Don't get me wrong, it does look "OK" just not great.
                              Maybe you need to be 18 again to see the benefit of that!

                              I can relate this to the Avanti Stretch Coupe, it looked much better before they messed with it.
                              Last edited by StudeRich; 04-16-2014, 01:36 PM.
                              StudeRich
                              Second Generation Stude Driver,
                              Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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