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  • southbend
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    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm only going by what's in the book, not personal experience. The wheelbase of the '50 Champion is 113". The '51 Champion is 115". The difference, I believe, was made up in '51 on the front fenders. I believe the body and rear fender dimensions from the cowl on back were the same for the '50 and the '51, although there was the slight difference in the tail light configuration as previously mentioned by RadioRoy. If that is indeed the case, it should simply be a matter of measuring the length of what's on your car and comparing it to the one you bought.
    Last edited by southbend; 03-28-2014, 04:24 AM.

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  • Chris Coon
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    Thanks for that, sounds like you have learned the hard way. I appreciate the info.
    i did find a LF fender that was listed as 50-51 champion, how do i tell the difference?

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  • redbullet
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    Front fenders from a 1950 Champion will not bolt on the 1951 Commander. The inner panels may not clear the V8 engine and the wheel base is different and that makes the wheel opening in the wrong place so you have to cut and move it so the tires don't rub on a turn. It will not bolt up to the core support properly. I have used 50 fenders on a 51 but it takes a lot of modifications.

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  • Chris Coon
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    Thanks to everyone that has helped w my parts needs, this is a very active, and very helpful group.
    I'm still following a few leads, but it looks like the only major piece I'm lacking is a RF fender

    thanks again
    Chris

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  • RadioRoy
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    The front fenders from ANY 51 Studebaker car will fit, Champion or Commander, any body style.

    Regardless of all the false information out there and even though they look similar, and no one seems to do their research, 50 Champion front fenders are not the same as 51 front fenders.

    For the rear fenders, you can use 50-52, although the tail light mounts are slightly different on the 50 models. These can come from any body style that has two doors; starlight coupe, business coupe, convertible, two door sedan, or 52 hard top.

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  • StudeRich
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    There is always that chance that this Car was owned by someone who never returned it for Dealer Service and never got notified of the recall, meaning the Lifters and Cam should be replaced with the improved parts.

    I have seen 232's with thin metal tags on the Rocker Arm Stands indicating, I believe that it was updated.

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  • BRUCESTUDE
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    Chris- I have rebuilt several of the 232's, and when rebuilt they are tough, high revving V-8s! The camshaft may have been replaced by a recall if an early model, but you may find yours worn, as the lifters, due to it being subjected dirty crappy oil for many many miles. (Look for spalling or pitting on the cam lobes and lifters) When I have a cam reground, I usually send the lifters to also get resurfaced. Make sure to add ZDDP additive to your oil as modern oils don't offer the correct protection for flat tappets.

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  • royvaldez
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    I have a 1951 automatic cross member. Since you have an automatic, a 3 speed tranny with od will not work. If you can not find one from the other members, please email me at royvaldez@wildblue.net

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  • Chris Coon
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    Thanks, that saved me a serious mistake. The fenders in question were from a 50 commander, and a long way from home.

    I'm hopeful that I have a good RF fender on the way and both rear one's also. Still searching for a LF fender and the frame crossmember

    Maybe they will be at York

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  • 61LaRk4dr
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    Originally posted by Chris Coon View Post
    Hey all

    would 50 front fenders fit my 51? My parts book doesn't cover 1950
    any help appreciated

    Chris
    Hello Chris,

    Yes and no. The Land Cruiser and the Commanders had longer fenders (someone correct me if I am wrong) in 1950 to accommodate the larger 6 cylinder. However, the Champion fenders from 1950 will work on a 1951 Champion or, in your case, a Commander. I found this out a while back when I purchased some chrome headlight rims that came of a 1950 Land Cruiser and realized that they were way too big!

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  • Chris Coon
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    Hey all

    would 50 front fenders fit my 51? My parts book doesn't cover 1950
    any help appreciated

    Chris

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  • Chris Coon
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    Wow Thanks for the welcome

    Nice Land Cruiser, is that interior original? It's in great condition

    Roscomacaw, yes, the crossmember attaches to the body right around the back of the frt fenders
    i should have posted my contact info
    860-248-1102 cell
    steam1912@yahoo.com. Let me know, I'm interested

    Brad, see you in York! Thanks

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  • rockne10
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    Chris,
    Look us up at York! I hope to take a Forum group photo in front of Old Main at 11:30 on Saturday.
    One of mine is a '51 Commander State 5-passenger with automatic!

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  • Roscomacaw
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    Welcome Chris! Without dragging out my parts books, are we talking about the crossmember that goes from one door pillar to the other? I think I might have one.

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  • 61LaRk4dr
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    Hello Chris,

    Welcome to the forum! I am currently restoring a 1951 Studebaker Land Cruiser, so we are kind of in the same boat. There are some great guys here that will be able to help you out. I look forward to seeing some pictures.

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