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    Please forgive my ignorance, but I've seen the term "C/K model" used a lot on these forums, and I haven't been able to pick up the exact definition from context, forum searching or search engines. Can someone help me out here? (By the way, is there a glossary thread somewhere? One might be useful.)

  • #2
    It all started in 1953 with the coupes and hardtops. Coupes have a C pillar, hardtops don't. The I.D. plate on the firewall will have a C for coupes and a K for hardtops. It carried on through all the Hawks until the GT hawks which are all hardtops.
    Dave Warren (Perry Mason by day, Perry Como by night)

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    • #3
      IIRC, The short version is:

      C-body is '53-61 120" wheelbase two-door coupe, incl Flight Hawk, Power Hawk, Hawk

      K-body is '53-58 and '62-64 120" wheelbase two-door hardtop - incl Golden Hawk, Sky Hawk, GT Hawk

      There are myriad varieties, but I think that's the basics

      jack vines
      PackardV8

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      • #4
        A 1954 Champion 6, C Body Starlight Coupe:
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        A 1954 Champion 6, K Body Starliner Hardtop.
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        StudeRich
        Second Generation Stude Driver,
        Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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        • #5
          Thanks everyone! I love learning this stuff. Now I can use the term and not sound like a fool.

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          • #6
            Minor correction Dave; they all have a "C" pillar (by the rear window), coupes have a "B" pillar between the door and the rear quarter window.
            Howard - Los Angeles chapter SDC
            '53 Commander Starliner (Finally running and driving, but still in process)
            '56 Golden Hawk (3 speed/overdrive, Power steering - Running, but not yet driving)
            '62 GT Hawk (4 speed, A/C, Power steering - running and DRIVING!)

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            • #7
              Here is a thread with plenty of pics of them: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...highlight=2010

              Craig

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              • #8
                Just remember C stands for Coupe. But then there is also a C cab truck. Built from 49-64. Some of these are the R model. Not to be confused with the R series engines.
                Neil Thornton

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                • #9
                  LOL. When I first received my Shop manual the model names scared the crap out of me. After 7 years of indoctrination I can actually find what I need by the model names and numbers. It just rubs off on ya.
                  Dave Warren (Perry Mason by day, Perry Como by night)

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                  • #10
                    Something else that I figured out after I got the C/K difference down (Correct me if I'm wrong...)

                    Because of their pillared construction, the C Coupes were inherently more structurally sound.

                    The K Hardtops' frames required additional U shaped stiffening under the doorsills from the factory. These are the "hog troughs" that you hear so much about (you especially hear that they are full of rust, and are a real pain to replace)

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                    • #11
                      Absolutely. If the old hog troughs are still there, you can use them for a template and make new ones up pretty quickly on a metal brake with 16 gauge steel. Welding them in requires a plan of attack. You can spot weld them, then attack with a few holes in the floor from above and leave the ends open until all your welding is complete.
                      Dave Warren (Perry Mason by day, Perry Como by night)

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                      • #12
                        The above information is good for 1953-1964 models, once the C pillar was corrected to B pillar, but there were other years of C bodies. The five passenger/Starlight coupes of 1947-1952 were also C body coupes.
                        Gary L.
                        Wappinger, NY

                        SDC member since 1968
                        Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by studegary View Post
                          The above information is good for 1953-1964 models, once the C pillar was corrected to B pillar, but there were other years of C bodies. The five passenger/Starlight coupes of 1947-1952 were also C body coupes.
                          As was the 1952 Starliner, which was also a K-body, and based on the convertible, which I believe was the S-body in those years.

                          Craig

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                          • #14
                            So...cut the roof below the rear window and above the windshield to reveal a potential convertible and it is a K. Cut the roof below the rear window and above the windshield and still have a mess to deal with between the front door and rear quarter windows and it is a C?
                            "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

                            Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
                            Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
                            sigpic'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée"

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                            • #15
                              I define C/K this way.................C=$$$$, K=$$$$$$!

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