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  • 8E45E
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    Originally posted by RDWEAVER View Post
    Was it common to send 1/2 pint of paint out with the car?
    I have noticed that with cars shipped from South Bend. Many of them shipped to Europe had a can of touch-up paint supplied with it.

    Craig

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  • RDWEAVER
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    Gary
    Hummm....Now that I think about it, The fins that were on the car when we bought the car were from a Golden Hawk. We owned the car for 6 months before I realized the fins were not correct. The body work had already been completed on them when we realized the stainless on the outside across the top did not belong there. All of this has made me dig up the production order and check for an indication of owner. There is none. I am certain it was assembled in South Bend. Line number 4041. The car was plain except for the OD trans 75 head power kit oil filter wet battery undercoating HD frame AC2885 climatizer AC2904 clock AC2943 winds AC2906 radio AC2886 anten and one half pint P5911. Not on the build sheet were the two "D" rings used to tie the car down when it was shipped. These are still on the car. They fit so well I am betting they were factory installed complete with the gr.8 bolt and nut with a jamb nut to insure they didn't come loose. All of this has got me thinking I should try a little harder to find out more about the car. Was it common to send 1/2 pint of paint out with the car?
    Thanks for your interest.
    Kevin
    Originally posted by studegary View Post
    Craig is correct. Also, if it was built/assembled here and shipped to Paris, the build sheet may give an indication of owner, perhaps for Raymond Loewy. If you do not yet have the build sheet for the car, I recommend getting one from the SNM. It is after Raymond Loewy's contract with Studebaker was up but it may have still been for him or some US business person or government/military person. I knew someone that bought a Hawk in Europe that was assembled in Belgium. It was assembled without fins. Does your have fins?

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  • studegary
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    Originally posted by 8E45E View Post
    It would be interesting to see the build sheet on it. If it states CKD, chances are it was assembled in Belgium.

    Craig
    Craig is correct. Also, if it was built/assembled here and shipped to Paris, the build sheet may give an indication of owner, perhaps for Raymond Loewy. If you do not yet have the build sheet for the car, I recommend getting one from the SNM. It is after Raymond Loewy's contract with Studebaker was up but it may have still been for him or some US business person or government/military person. I knew someone that bought a Hawk in Europe that was assembled in Belgium. It was assembled without fins. Does your have fins?

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  • 8E45E
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    It would be interesting to see the build sheet on it. If it states CKD, chances are it was assembled in Belgium.

    Craig

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  • RDWEAVER
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    Gary
    Not sure how I would check this out. I tried but only got back two owners from me. We bought the car from an estate auction so I did not get to speak to the fella. He had passed away and his daughter only knew that he had purchased the car from a museum. I called them and spoke to the owners wife she told me that too much time had passed since he had purchased the vehicle and besides with the privacy laws today she didn't think she could help me out. That is as far as I got. We are interseted in knowing the history of the car but I am at a loss for a way to record this.
    Originally posted by studegary View Post
    Have you checked for a Raymond Loewy connection to this Hawk? If not Loewy, it was probably a US businessperson or a US military person. I believe that most of the European Hawks were assembled in Europe (Belgium) and were six cylinder.
    Only 69% of all 1959 Hawks were V8s and there weren't very many in total.

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  • bezhawk
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    I need an Avanti shop manual in German

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  • studegary
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    Originally posted by RDWEAVER View Post
    Craig
    The car is a 1959 Silver Hawk. It also is a v8.
    Have you checked for a Raymond Loewy connection to this Hawk? If not Loewy, it was probably a US businessperson or a US military person. I believe that most of the European Hawks were assembled in Europe (Belgium) and were six cylinder.
    Only 69% of all 1959 Hawks were V8s and there weren't very many in total.

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  • RDWEAVER
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    Craig
    The car is a 1959 Silver Hawk. It also is a v8.
    Originally posted by 8E45E View Post
    Most interesting!! What year and model?

    Craig

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  • rockne10
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    Check with Richard Quinn. He's still selling English language export owners manuals.

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  • 8E45E
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    Originally posted by RDWEAVER View Post
    original destination was Paris France. thank you.
    Most interesting!! What year and model?

    Craig

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  • RDWEAVER
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    Originally posted by 8E45E View Post
    Where was your car sold new? Province of Quebec, Canada? Or in the country of France? You may want to clarify if you want a Canadian market French-language version, or a European market French-language Owner's Guide. I suspect a Canadian market OG will have the Hamilton plant address inside, and the non-North American market version will have the Export Division, South Bend, USA inside.

    Craig
    original destination was Paris France. thank you.

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  • 8E45E
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    Originally posted by RDWEAVER View Post
    OK ... that answers one question but raises another. We have an export car we are restoring and the information we got from the Studebaker museum said "owners manual printed in French". I thought it may be a conversation piece so I was wondering how to obtain one of these???
    Where was your car sold new? Province of Quebec, Canada? Or in the country of France? You may want to clarify if you want a Canadian market French-language version, or a European market French-language Owner's Guide. I suspect a Canadian market OG will have the Hamilton plant address inside, and the non-North American market version will have the Export Division, South Bend, USA inside.

    Craig

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  • studegary
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    Originally posted by RDWEAVER View Post
    OK ... that answers one question but raises another. We have an export car we are restoring and the information we got from the Studebaker museum said "owners manual printed in French". I thought it may be a conversation piece so I was wondering how to obtain one of these???
    Try SI. Their predecesor had them.

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  • RDWEAVER
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    OK ... that answers one question but raises another. We have an export car we are restoring and the information we got from the Studebaker museum said "owners manual printed in French". I thought it may be a conversation piece so I was wondering how to obtain one of these???

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  • studegary
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    Yes, there were different versions of Owner's Manuals, at least for some of the years. There are also English English and American English versions (I hope that is clear.).

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