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    Someone gave me a 64 Daytona and it has two "T"s with a circle around each of them. Ones silver and one is red. It looks like a Studebaker emblem although the engine and chassis are all built up. The chassis is a "Fat man's" design. Anyone know what the Ts might mean?

  • #2
    Twin Traction?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by studefan View Post
      Twin Traction?
      you are correct, sir! (aka: positraction)

      with all the mods done, you may want to check if the differential is original...
      Kerry. SDC Member #A012596W. ENCSDC member.

      '51 Champion Business Coupe - (Tom's Car). Purchased 11/2012.

      '40 Champion. sold 10/11. '63 Avanti R-1384. sold 12/10.

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      • #4


        Twin Traction = Positrack
        1964 GT Hawk
        PSMCDR 2014
        Best time: 14.473 sec. 96.57 MPH quarter mile
        PSMCDR 2013
        Best time: 14.654 sec. 94.53 MPH quarter

        Victoria, Canada

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        • #5
          How can I tell if it is still a Studebaker rearend? The car has been sitting in a garage for 10 years and I need brake parts.

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          • #6
            Studebaker used the Dana rears. Casting numbers on the housing would suffice. If any changes have been made, they would more than likely be significantly obvious.
            "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

            Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
            Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
            '33 Rockne 10,
            '51 Commander Starlight,
            '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée",
            '56 Sky Hawk

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            • #7
              I remember seeing one of those emblems on a Tucker Torpedo in the Nethercutt museum in LA a few years ago. Made me laugh!

              Chris.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Buck View Post
                How can I tell if it is still a Studebaker rearend? The car has been sitting in a garage for 10 years and I need brake parts.
                One major clue would be the Tapered Axles with the tiny "Hat" shaped spacer floating on the inboard ends of the Axles on all TT's.

                I am pretty sure there were a few makes that had them, like Chrysler Products, but quite a ways back and may not have been in Dana 44's.
                Jeeps would be a lot narrower.

                Even the Ratios are peculiar to Studebaker: 3.07, 3.31, 3.54, 3.73, 3.92, 4.09, 4.27, 4.56 and 4.88
                Last edited by StudeRich; 09-08-2013, 11:36 PM.
                StudeRich
                Second Generation Stude Driver,
                Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                • #9
                  It it's a 44 (and no one has spuriously removed them), there will be a set of tags on the differential cover, like so:
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                  As you can see (under all that grease and road grime!) there are 3 tags on a Twin-Traction rear end. One contains the Twin-Traction identification and lubrication instructions, another the ratio, and the last an ID number. If you have these, you've got a closed rear end.

                  Clark in San Diego | '63 Standard (F2) "Barney" | http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Buck View Post
                    Someone gave me a 64 Daytona .......
                    MY MY...there's a statement worth quoting!

                    Something us "CASO'S" consider the ultimate way to acquire a car!
                    John Clary
                    Greer, SC

                    SDC member since 1975

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                    • #11
                      After crawling around under the car, there is not much left that is Studebaker anymore. I'll post some pictures soon.

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                      • #12
                        A way to tell if it still has the TT, block the front wheels, ENGINE OFF, eBrake off and in Neutral..

                        Then jack up one rear wheel off the ground. If the tire spins, its not function properly, or its been removed.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SScopelli View Post
                          A way to tell if it still has the TT, block the front wheels, ENGINE OFF, eBrake off and in Neutral..

                          Then jack up one rear wheel off the ground. If the tire spins, its not function properly, or its been removed.
                          An easier way is to remove the plug and stick your finger in the hole, if it stops at the first digit you've got a twin trac.

                          Allen
                          1964 GT Hawk
                          PSMCDR 2014
                          Best time: 14.473 sec. 96.57 MPH quarter mile
                          PSMCDR 2013
                          Best time: 14.654 sec. 94.53 MPH quarter

                          Victoria, Canada

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by studebaker-R2-4-me View Post
                            An easier way is to remove the plug and stick your finger in the hole, if it stops at the first digit you've got a twin trac.
                            I think you might have meant "first knuckle".

                            Clark in San Diego | '63 Standard (F2) "Barney" | http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by studebaker-R2-4-me View Post


                              Twin Traction = Positrack
                              This is definitely a 'cool' looking emblem!

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