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  • Frantz Oil Cleaner on a Studebaker engine; If you haven't ever seen one, you have now!

    While we were at the International Meet in Colorado Springs, we bought, well bought and removed, a set of truck engine and transmission mounts, and a truck water pump manifold assembly that was on a passenger car 259. While I was removing the water pump manifold, I happened to look at the nice polished oil cartridge assembly and broke out in the giggles. It was a partial flow block, but the oil filter assembly was a Frantz oil cleaner. So, out of pity for the aftermarket oil cleaner, I removed it too, along with the oil fill. What am I gonna do with it? I have yet to figure it out, other than I'm hanging onto it, and relegating its current state to a conversation piece! So, if you haven't seen one, well, you have now!



    The "media" was still in the cartridge, and it was well used too. Installing the "filter" is easy; Undo the strap, pull up the housing, pull out the wire holding it in the housing, and pull out the wire holding the center in the housing. Just reverse the order when you're ready for the new "media".









    1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
    1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
    1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
    1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

  • #2
    That probably is genuine Chiffon 2 Ply... ah bathroom Tissue! When it is tightly packed with two layers of crisscrossed fine screen in the bottom and the outer "seal" ring, no paper will ever get loose in the engine and the Oil will be ultra finely filtered, slowly to remove moisture, carbon sludge etc. down to way lower micron size than any other Filter, which will prevent acid buildup in the Oil.
    They work even better with a Full Flow Filter also.

    Frantz Filters were certified for Aircraft use after they changed that clamp type lock to an Aeroquip positive Clamp.
    They also made a 3 stacker for Diesels in Trucks, Busses RV's, Boats etc. That's right, 3 Rolls of TP.

    Bi-pass Type Filters are making a comeback, they are now used on Diesels to supplement the Full Flow Filter to do a finer job of filtration to extend the life of a very large and expensive crankcase full of Oil.

    One of the main reasons for their decline in the 70's and 80's was the way too diversified types of Engines and lack of under hood space. In the 50's and '60's it used to take 2 sides of one 8 1/2 X11 Instruction sheet to cover all American Make Engine installations, plus one "intruder", Volkswagen. There is now no way to do that with hundreds and now thousands of different engine compartments and Oil pickup and return locations and space to deal with.

    I believe the Manufacturer, Sky Corp. has moved on to other products now.
    Last edited by StudeRich; 07-23-2013, 12:08 AM.
    StudeRich
    Second Generation Stude Driver,
    Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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    • #3
      I knew a guy that used those on his Checker Taxi Cabs in the late 50's. He swore by them and claimed they saved him big bucks on oil changes.

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      • #4
        We have a forum member here who is an oil filtration expert. I'm waiting for him to weigh in on the Franz.

        JMHO, but I put the Franz in the category with Marvel Mystery Oil, Sea Foam and STP. Those who use them are true believers. Then there are those who never buy or use them.

        jack vines
        PackardV8

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        • #5
          I use one of these, the oil stays nice looking all the way to the next oil change and rarely even gets to shades of black unless I stretch it out to 4K miles. I have it on a partial flow block, it has got to be better than nothing.........and is always a conversation starter when the hood is up.

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          • #6
            ""I have it on a partial flow block, it has got to be better than nothing.........and is always a conversation starter when the hood is up.""


            Maybe not... My 259 Larks engine has no filter (hasn't since shortly after I bought it just over 95k miles ago)...and it stays "visually" clean between changes...in the 2500 to 3000 mile range..!?

            Despite the experts, I seriously doubt that much oil is "actually" filtered thru a .04" to .06" restrictor hole thru a 4000 mile change interval.

            Mike

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            • #7
              I use Stilko's. Bought about 10 of them at $80 apiece in the mid 70's.

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              • #8
                Stilko's are a bit scary, wouldn't that have the ability to STOP ALL of the Full Flow to the bearings when clogged?
                I always wondered if they have built in bypass circuits to make it a Partial Flow Filter to prevent this.
                If that is the case you are better off without it or with a stock full flow AND a Frantz bi-pass type.

                The Studebaker adapter/Mount, built in bi-pass may be dumping Oil most of the time because of the slow limited flow of the fine filtering TP as opposed to the coarse particle fast flow design of the stock setup.

                They always advertised their cooler LOOK and actually COOLING ability, but beyond that I think they are useless. If ALL of the Oil is actually going through it, with more flow there is a much greater chance of Paper coming loose and getting into the Engine.
                Last edited by StudeRich; 07-23-2013, 12:25 PM.
                StudeRich
                Second Generation Stude Driver,
                Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                • #9
                  Disconnect your hose and leave it disconnected. Start up the engine, and start you stop watch. Make a time stamp of when the rods start rattling. This should give you a good idea of how long it takes for 5-6 quarts of oil to filter thru a bypass filter............just to make it interesting do it at full rpm.
                  Originally posted by Mike Van Veghten View Post
                  ""I have it on a partial flow block, it has got to be better than nothing.........and is always a conversation starter when the hood is up.""


                  Maybe not... My 259 Larks engine has no filter (hasn't since shortly after I bought it just over 95k miles ago)...and it stays "visually" clean between changes...in the 2500 to 3000 mile range..!?

                  Despite the experts, I seriously doubt that much oil is "actually" filtered thru a .04" to .06" restrictor hole thru a 4000 mile change interval.

                  Mike

                  Russ Shop Foreman \"Rusty Nut Garage\"
                  53 2R6 289 5SpdOD (driver)
                  57 SH (project)
                  60 Lark VIII 2dr sd (driver)

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                  • #10
                    Yes Rich; The Stilko's have a spring with an aluminum spacer at the top of the center tube, that has holes. When the pressure backs up it pushes the spacer away from the holes and it by passes the toilet paper. But it still goes through a 100 micron stainless steel filter screen that is both on top and on the bottom of the paper. That engine in the pic is B 48 and had over 275,000 miles on it.

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                    • #11
                      Just clean it up and mount it on the wall in the bathroom. Put it to use!

                      Gary Ash
                      Dartmouth, Mass.

                      '32 Indy car replica (in progress)
                      ’41 Commander Land Cruiser
                      '48 M5
                      '65 Wagonaire Commander
                      '63 Wagonaire Standard
                      web site at http://www.studegarage.com

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                      • #12
                        great idea I've got an old one I'm going to add this to the shop bathroom
                        Originally posted by garyash View Post
                        Just clean it up and mount it on the wall in the bathroom. Put it to use!


                        Russ Shop Foreman \"Rusty Nut Garage\"
                        53 2R6 289 5SpdOD (driver)
                        57 SH (project)
                        60 Lark VIII 2dr sd (driver)

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                        • #13
                          If yours is anything like mine though, unless you're into toilet paper rolls with the old engine oil scent in it, just remember to take the old one out!

                          All funnies aside, it is an interesting piece! It might end up someplace, whether bathroom fixture, kitchen towel dispenser, or engine block!
                          1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                          1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
                          1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
                          1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Alan View Post
                            I use Stilko's. Bought about 10 of them at $80 apiece in the mid 70's.

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                            Hey that's pretty sweet looking! Could you enlighten me a little? Is it as cool as it looks?

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                            • #15
                              Just remember guys, and my '50 2R5 falls into this camp too, the partial flow filters were optional on the engines. My pickup, which has a 170 cid six, didn't have one when I got it, and it spent a great many years in a traditional farm truck role without one. The thinking was to change the oil every 5000 miles, and you were set.

                              Now, would I go these days without any sort of filter? Oh Lord no! It has the add on, drop in cartridge setup as cheap insurance!!
                              1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                              1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
                              1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
                              1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

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