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  • GThawkwind
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    Oh I know! It's out of town for a short time staying with a friend. This is the body man friend. We're not gonna paint the whole car, but we're gonna shoot the engine bay, interior area, and window channels. Just get some good paint on the parts that'll get covered by my reassembly. Then once she lives and breaths again we'll maybe look into real paint. I've got lots of irons in the fire right now we'll see which ones pan out. Found my dash and everything that goes with it, even the wiring harness. I'm pretty sure I found an engine in town. Trans hunting as we speak though, I may have found the car bearing my glass, interior, and brakes. Hope that one pans out! I've at least got leads on almos everthing to make it a car again. I'll snap some pics when I go up next weekend to do some body work.

    Oh and I did use an emoticon!

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  • Corvanti
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    i'm sure you haven't offended anyone - certainly not me! and with your explanation, all should be ok with others...

    i've discovered if i'm kidding around, the "emoticons" help advise everyone you're joking:

    if it's really off the wall, i may write (i'm joking), since i do get some posts with a <g> instead of a emoticon. the 'puter knowledgeable folks may have a better explanation, but i take it as a "smiley face" or another emoticon from a older 'puter browser, so i'm not sure my 'cons go thru to them. idk.

    keep up the good work, and still waiting for more pics of your '53!

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  • GThawkwind
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    Everybody.... I don't think Avanti owners are snobs at all. It was just a joke! Based on the idea of a purist reading the concept of an Avanti with a packard and a caddy FWD tranny. Completely kidding I meant no offense to the many fine Avanti owners I've meant on the forum since I've joined... or even the ones I haven't meant. I hope I haven't actually offended anyone.

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  • Corvanti
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    Originally posted by GThawkwind View Post
    No of course not most are. But with any prestigeous such as an Avanti there are always the uppity types, who take there car ownership way to seriously. With the Avanti, I've read about them but really met any yet.
    Daniel, in the past i've owned 3 Corvettes and 1 Avanti. believe me, "most" Avanti owners i know are NOT "uppity". i'll admit "some" on 'net posts here - but mainly elsewhere, may be so. then again it may be just "pride" showing, as some of us do comparing our Studebaker loves to a "Brand X".

    Corvette owners - that's another story. the first car show i took my '80 C-3 with "matching numbers" and 38K original survivor miles, i got some grief from the C-2 and early C-3 owners. the 2 main complaints were "no chrome bumpers" after '72/'73, and the (federally mandated) de-tuned L-48 engine. other examples, but i don't want to write a book. i will say it wasn't everyone, but "many" more than just "some"...

    even with the modified Avanti nasty-grams i've talked about in other threads, i've worked thru all that. and i feel the SDC and the forum has a "big tent", and there's enough room for everyone!

    since there's another thread about Ricky Nelson's Avanti, i'll just say: "You can't please everyone - you have to please yourself"!!!

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  • Dan Timberlake
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    I tried to zoom in to see if those plug wires say "Packard 440" but was un-successful.

    Then again some would say stranded copper ain't the best.
    http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25712

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  • GThawkwind
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    Originally posted by JoeHall View Post
    From the folks I have met, Avanti owners aren't snobs. They are kinda like 56J owners, a subculture in an already small culture of Stude owners.

    I have always thought Avantis were intriguing, but the only one I ever came close to buying was the one with the 429 Caddy motor, installed by Joe Granatelli in the 1960s. It was at the annual LA Spring Meet in California, in the late 1980s IIRC. Thank goodness the owner was honest and told me it had had an overheating problem since day-one, nobody had ever been able to solve. I lived in the desert at that time, so that was an instant deal breaker.
    No of course not most are. But with any prestigeous such as an Avanti there are always the uppity types, who take there car ownership way to seriously. With the Avanti, I've read about them but really met any yet.

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  • JoeHall
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    Originally posted by GThawkwind View Post
    Ah to see the look on the face of an Avanti snob reading that post.
    From the folks I have met, Avanti owners aren't snobs. They are kinda like 56J owners, a subculture in an already small culture of Stude owners.

    I have always thought Avantis were intriguing, but the only one I ever came close to buying was the one with the 429 Caddy motor, installed by Joe Granatelli in the 1960s. It was at the annual LA Spring Meet in California, in the late 1980s IIRC. Thank goodness the owner was honest and told me it had had an overheating problem since day-one, nobody had ever been able to solve. I lived in the desert at that time, so that was an instant deal breaker.

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  • GThawkwind
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    Originally posted by PackardV8 View Post
    Interestingly, an Avanti, with more room up front would actually be an easier conversion to Packard power than the C-cab trucks.

    I've thought about doing one, but it would have to be with a front wheel drive setup from the Eldorado/Toronado. An Avanti with all the weight on the front is a natural for becoming FWD. No traction problem then.

    jack vines
    Ah to see the look on the face of an Avanti snob reading that post.

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  • PackardV8
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    I would so stuff this in my Avanti!
    Interestingly, an Avanti, with more room up front would actually be an easier conversion to Packard power than the C-cab trucks.

    I've thought about doing one, but it would have to be with a front wheel drive setup from the Eldorado/Toronado. An Avanti with all the weight on the front is a natural for becoming FWD. No traction problem then.

    jack vines

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  • Hawklover
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    wow!

    John,I do not know you, but I will tell you that this 352 is absolutely georgeous!........I might even give my left 'nut" to have this..........surely better than a roll in the hay with Carmen Electra! Man I would so stuff this in my Avanti!Good luck with it simply beautiful!
    Originally posted by Packard8 View Post
    I'll agree with Jack. These engines when set up right are as smooth as a Swiss watch and as torquey as D9 Cat. I have a Marine 374 with an Isky cam, HiPo Mopar valve train, AMC oil pump (for a 4 gallon sump with integral oil cooler) Edelbrock 750 Marine carb and a full dynamic ballance. Just waiting for the right classic wood runabout to be its home.

    Cheers,

    John

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  • Packard8
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    Originally posted by PackardV8 View Post
    FWIW, After Packard production ended, there were still dozens of '56J engines in the pipeline. SASCO sold them for $495 retail. A couple of big boat shops bought a several and converted them to marine use. They still show up from time to time.

    The shop I work out of for precision machine work charges more to build the old flathead six-cylinder marine Hercules, Chris-Craft, Chrysler, et al , than for a Packard V8.

    jack vines
    Jack, here are some pix of the oil pump and water cooled pan. I've seen one or two Stokes conversions, and this one (Andres Marine) seems a lot better engineered with stainless manifolds and copper plumbing.
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Packard8; 07-02-2013, 11:38 AM.

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  • Packard8
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    Originally posted by sweetolbob View Post
    John

    I agree that gorgeous engine deserves one of these.



    Bob
    Yessir Bob, I would go as high as $1500 for that Hacker tri cockpit!

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  • PackardV8
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    FWIW, After Packard production ended, there were still dozens of '56J engines in the pipeline. SASCO sold them for $495 retail. A couple of big boat shops bought a several and converted them to marine use. They still show up from time to time.

    The shop I work out of for precision machine work charges more to build the old flathead six-cylinder marine Hercules, Chris-Craft, Chrysler, et al , than for a Packard V8.

    jack vines

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  • sweetolbob
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    John

    I agree that gorgeous engine deserves one of these.



    Bob

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  • sals54
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    Originally posted by Packard8 View Post
    I'll agree with Jack. These engines when set up right are as smooth as a Swiss watch and as torquey as D9 Cat. I have a Marine 374 with an Isky cam, HiPo Mopar valve train, AMC oil pump (for a 4 gallon sump with integral oil cooler) Edelbrock 750 Marine carb and a full dynamic ballance. Just waiting for the right classic wood runabout to be its home.

    Cheers,

    John
    John,
    That Packard engine is just stinkin awesome. WOW. Very cool machine.

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