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  • #76
    Originally posted by plee4139 View Post
    Even Better! My car is kept on the east end of LI, and it's a nice easy drive to the Cross-Sound ferry and then a short hop to anywhere in Ct. Not only that, but they've got the good sense not to schedule on a major national holiday. See U there?
    What is wrong with you?? You have repeatedly kept this thread going with what I believe when taken together are the stupidest posts of the year. First you gripe and moan about driving your car the 216 miles from East Northport, NY to Dover, DE during a week when there's a holiday. This from someone in the NY metro area. Then you decide that you really don't want to drive your car any distance at any time because its hot, noisy, and a gas guzzler, and therefore you'll go to a parade a few miles from home. Well, welcome to the world of Studebaker driving! Don't like heat and noise? Get a trailer.

    But it's not really about that is it, Peter? Because you know and I know that you wouldn't have driven your Studebaker to an IM even if the meet were being held during another week. I bet you're not going to the zone meet in Cherry Hill the week after next either, and it's not on a national holiday. For the reasons that I explained very early in this thread, and that Skip Lackie elaborated upon, the 2014 IM is being held the week of 6/30 to 7/5 because Dover Downs Hotel and Casino gave us a very good rate for that particular week. And, as a member of the Delmarva Chapter, I really resent your continued negative comments, and the whole tone of your posts. Our chapter president and meet chairman has spent a great amount of time putting this meet together with the considerable help of the Dover Downs people and others, including folks in the south Jersey chapter who are happy to pitch in. We're excited about doing this and look forward to a great week.

    Peter, I think you would really be a lot happier staying home and participating in your little parade on Long Island. You don't seem like you would enjoy this IM anyway, and I don't think you need to say any more about it. For the rest of you, I apologize for this rant and hope that you'll check the SDC meet site to see the activities we have planned for you. We look forward to seeing all of you next year. Even you, Peter, but don't come to dover to complain!

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    • #77
      Originally posted by 60ragtop View Post
      What is wrong with you?? You have repeatedly kept this thread going with what I believe when taken together are the stupidest posts of the year. First you gripe and moan about driving your car the 216 miles from East Northport, NY to Dover, DE during a week when there's a holiday. This from someone in the NY metro area. Then you decide that you really don't want to drive your car any distance at any time because its hot, noisy, and a gas guzzler, and therefore you'll go to a parade a few miles from home. Well, welcome to the world of Studebaker driving! Don't like heat and noise? Get a trailer.

      But it's not really about that is it, Peter? Because you know and I know that you wouldn't have driven your Studebaker to an IM even if the meet were being held during another week. I bet you're not going to the zone meet in Cherry Hill the week after next either, and it's not on a national holiday. For the reasons that I explained very early in this thread, and that Skip Lackie elaborated upon, the 2014 IM is being held the week of 6/30 to 7/5 because Dover Downs Hotel and Casino gave us a very good rate for that particular week. And, as a member of the Delmarva Chapter, I really resent your continued negative comments, and the whole tone of your posts. Our chapter president and meet chairman has spent a great amount of time putting this meet together with the considerable help of the Dover Downs people and others, including folks in the south Jersey chapter who are happy to pitch in. We're excited about doing this and look forward to a great week.

      Peter, I think you would really be a lot happier staying home and participating in your little parade on Long Island. You don't seem like you would enjoy this IM anyway, and I don't think you need to say any more about it. For the rest of you, I apologize for this rant and hope that you'll check the SDC meet site to see the activities we have planned for you. We look forward to seeing all of you next year. Even you, Peter, but don't come to dover to complain!
      Thank you Frank. Bang on! Just maybe Peter will now end this nonsense. By the way we have an 8+ hour drive to Dover and we will be there.

      Stu Chapman

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Stu Chapman View Post
        Thank you Frank. Bang on! Just maybe Peter will now end this nonsense. By the way we have an 8+ hour drive to Dover and we will be there.

        Stu Chapman
        I am looking forward to Dover and I can appreciate what goes into an SDC International Convention and what one can get out of it. I am also looking forward to seeing Stu and Thelma and MOST others.
        Gary L.
        Wappinger, NY

        SDC member since 1968
        Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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        • #79
          I will jump in here and add my say. I am not at all happy with internationals being on a major holiday week. It has nothing to do with driving as I drive my Champ or GT Hawk almost every day. We attend several car shows during the summer in the Gt Hawk(it has A/C) many of which are well over a hundred miles away. I have attended most of the IMs since Portland and always have trouble attending all of the scheduled events that interest me. I am fine with the length of the meet.
          This year I stood up at the membership meeting and ask why the meets were scheduled on Holidays and got the same answer as Skip posted here. There have been several others on here that seem to agree but where were they at the Membership meeting? One of the board members brought the subject up at the board meeting also. My family would skin me it I missed another family event on the 4th of July so I will have to pass on Dover.
          David Haynes
          '49 2R15 Flatbed
          '56 Golden Hawk
          '62 GT Hawk
          '63 Champ 8E 12
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          • #80
            At the risk of continuing to beat a very dead horse, lemme add a coupla additonal factors. SDC IMs require (it's actually a much longer list): a big hotel with a monstrous parking lot, moderate (guaranteed) room rates, full restaurant/bar service, a ballroom/banquet room, and many meeting rooms; many other nearby hotels and restaurants, both cheaper and more expensive; lotsa nearby attractions; nearby RV parks and camp grounds; and a large, active chapter with at least 20 members who will devote a significant percentage of their life to the endeavor for about three years. The local chapter (or the Stude Museum) does all the work. We are not like some wealthy lobbiest organization that just calls up J. Willard Marriot and asks him to host a conference for 1000 people and 500 cars for six days at one of his resorts on a particular week, two years hence. Our own unpaid chapter members do the work.

            More than half of our chapters simply cannot host an IM -- they're not big enough, or active enough, or too widely dispersed, or there is no venue that can meet enough of the above criteria. Several of the IMs that I have attended have been at hotels that I would describe as "marginal" -- but then, I think Holiday Inns are swanky. When I asked the local host chapter about it, the answer was always the same: it was the ONLY hotel that could satisfy the criteria and was willing to discuss things like guaranteeing room rates three years in advance. It was often the case that only a few dates were still available -- sometimes, there was only one week still available -- usually a week when occupancy rates were expected to be low without an SDC-sized conference to fill the place up. And let me note that we are not a free-spending group, like lobbiests on an expense account. EVERYONE shows up for the free ice cream social, but the high-end hotel restaurant often gets very little patronage.

            SDC is not being deluged with chapter proposals for IMs -- quite the contrary. The club often has to persuade chapters to take on the job -- often after all the members who worked on the one before have moved away or died. Few veterans (Denny Foust being a notable exception) are willing to suffer the same torture twice.

            So when you can't make an IM because of its schedule or location -- sorry, we'll miss you. But go easy on placing the blame on those who made the decision to hold it then/there in the first place -- they really had to make a bunch of compromises to make it happen at all.
            Skip Lackie

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            • #81


              To sum up the thread: Most posters here feel that meeting over a national holiday is a tough pill to swallow. People with some pull have suggested those people contact their director and/or the meet committee. Others have rightly pointed out that putting on a meet is intensely hard work, performed by people who are paid only in the satisfaction of knowing the Stude world can come together once more; and some of the comments in this thread seem to belittle these volunteers for their effort.

              Is that about right? Can we be done now?
              '63 Lark Custom, 259 v8, auto, child seat

              "Your friendly neighborhood Studebaker evangelist"

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              • #82
                Yeah, we can. In fact, I insist!

                Clark in San Diego | '63 Standard (F2) "Barney" | http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

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