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  • FlatheadGeo
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    WOW!!! What a great tribute! Way to go!!!!!!

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  • candbstudebakers
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    Thanks BP for the pictures and full coverage of the days events, looked and sounded as every one enjoyed the day, Jim's convert has the most beautiful red steering wheel and I should know I sold it to him many years ago , about the Buick's my first pick would be a 59 red convert. have always loved that car, thanks again Bob for doing this....another BP

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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by unclemiltie View Post
    A tip of the hat to those whom took the time to get their cars out for this event. Bob, thanks for sharing!
    You're welcome, Milt....'had to move the "St. Louis" Daytona 4-door to get the convertible out and think of you guys every time I see your chapter's logo still on the 4-door's windshield...but it's fading fast. BP

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  • unclemiltie
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    A tip of the hat to those whom took the time to get their cars out for this event. Bob, thanks for sharing!

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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by studeski View Post
    Bob,
    I was waiting for the pics. Thanks loads! Brings tears.
    Claude
    I know what you mean, Claude. I found myself choking up a couple times when I showed my wife the pictures and gave her a report of the day. (She had a day planned with a girlfriend out here and had not gone to the parade.) BP

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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by Bill Pressler View Post
    Bob, there's not much to not like about a loaded '63 Riviera! I think GM was building pretty good cars, body-wise and mechanically, in '63, wouldn't you say?

    But you know me...styling-wise, I think it's hard to beat GM (including Buick's) full-sizes for the '65 model year.
    Oh, yes; agree fully, Bill. The 1963 Riviera was a wonderful corporate answer to the 4-place Thunderbird that was making a market of its own by that time, for which The General had no really distinctive answer until the all-new 1963 Riviera bowed.

    Once all the GMs got the good, new Delcotron alternator charging system for 1963, the 1963s and 1964s were some of the best cars, if not the best cars, General Motors ever built.

    Yes, the 1965s were highly styled and thus more appealing from a sales standpoint, but probably not quite as good mechanically. (So close it's a toss-up, though, and not worth much discussion, IMHO.)

    I personally loved the 1965 Cadillac...but, boy, the frames were so flimsy that the cars were subject to structural rust issues long before their time. (If you are restoring a 1965 or 1966 Cadillac with a shaky frame, good luck finding a much better one.)

    GM didn't start to lose the ball in the weeds mechanically until circa 1977, with the cheap new R4 air conditioning compressors and 200-series automatic transmissions that were junk compared to the good units they replaced, and those are major components not to be trifled with if you are going to keep your customer base intact.

    (Hmmmm....didn't they have the high 40s in market penetration back then and are today struggling to get 18%? 'Might be a connection, there....nah, just a coincidence, I'm sure...)

    Style-wise, the ball went in the weeds earlier, in 1971 on the big cars...although I do like the luxury-liner ride of my '72 LeSabre Custom convertible! BP

    Last edited by BobPalma; 11-12-2012, 04:50 PM. Reason: spelling

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  • Bill Pressler
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    Bob, there's not much to not like about a loaded '63 Riviera! I think GM was building pretty good cars, body-wise and mechanically, in '63, wouldn't you say?

    But you know me...styling-wise, I think it's hard to beat GM (including Buick's) full-sizes for the '65 model year.

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  • studeski
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    Bob,
    I was waiting for the pics. Thanks loads! Brings tears.
    Claude

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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by Bill Pressler View Post
    Interesting, Bob! I'd love to ask what favorite years/models and least favorite years/models were, in his opinion.

    My hometown of Greenville, PA (pop. 9,200 in the 1950 census) was not the county seat, but had a larger population than Mercer, the county seat. Greenville had Chevrolet, Pontiac, Olds, Buick, Cadillac, Ford, Mercury, AMC, Studebaker, Packard, Mercedes-Benz, Simca, Sunbeam, Chrysler, Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto, Hudson, AMC, and Kaiser-Frazer dealers. As I've mentioned, the Stude dealer was in continuous business under one family from 1926-68.

    Now, there is one dealer in the borough proper, Phil Godfrey Ford, and one dealer on the outskirts of town, Lakeland Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep (building originally built in '69 as Stegkamper Ford-Mercury).

    Mercer has a Chevrolet dealer, but I think that's it.
    Actually, Bill; I asked him that!

    Mr. Costin said the '59s were his least favorite, with '58s close behind. (Since he had only been in business a couple years when those models came out, and since those models contributed to the horrendous Buick market percentage nosedive from 1956 through circa 1961, we should be able to "understand" his reservations about those model years!)

    He said his favorite model year was 1963, and he loved the new Riviera that year. He ordered a new, loaded Riviera for his demo and when it came in, the sticker was so high he had second thoughts about, "driving a demo that was so expensive!"

    But after it was prepped, he liked it so much on a first drive, that he kept it for his demo after all. 'Can't say that I blame him. BP

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  • Bill Pressler
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    Interesting, Bob! I'd love to ask what favorite years/models and least favorite years/models, of Buick were, in his opinion.

    My hometown of Greenville, PA (pop. 9,200 in the 1950 census) was not the county seat, but had a larger population than Mercer, the county seat. Greenville had Chevrolet, Pontiac, Olds, Buick, Cadillac, Ford, Mercury, AMC, Studebaker, Packard, Mercedes-Benz, Simca, Sunbeam, Chrysler, Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto, Hudson, AMC, and Kaiser-Frazer dealers. As I've mentioned, the Stude dealer was in continuous business under one family from 1926-68.

    Now, there is one dealer in the borough proper, Phil Godfrey Ford, and one dealer on the outskirts of town, Lakeland Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep (building originally built in '69 as Stegkamper Ford-Mercury).

    Mercer has a Chevrolet dealer, but I think that's it.

    I'm pretty sure, though not certain, that Pavone Buick (before my memory) also sold Jaguar in Greenville.
    Last edited by Bill Pressler; 11-12-2012, 08:07 AM.

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  • BobPalma
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    Our rear deck, looking toward The Morton Building, less than 48 hours after the 72-degree parade stepped off in downtown Indianapolis:



    Yep; 'first snowfall of the season, well underway. (Old Hoosier wisdom says that if you don't like the weather in Indiana, just wait a day or two and it will be completely different!) BP

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  • 52 Ragtop
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    "Fifty years from now-
    maybe I will be the Veteran ridin' in the back of some cool 'vert...? "

    Dave,
    Anytime you want a ride, you got it!! Thanks to guys & gals like YOU! we live in the greatest country in the world!

    Jim


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  • Lanny Bertram
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    It was indeed an honor to chauffeur these members of "The Greatest Generation". Also very humbling to witness the outpouring gratitude they, and all our Service Men and Women, so much deserve.

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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by Bill Pressler View Post
    Great photos of a great day, Bob!
    Thanks, Bill, 'glad you enjoyed them.

    Being small-town boys that we are, I learned something yesterday that surprised me, RE: The Plainfield IN Buick dealership.

    Plainfield is also in Hendricks County, the county immediately west of Indianapolis, where I live in Brownsburg, in the northern part of the county. Immediately far south of Browsnburg, but still in Hendricks County, is Plainfield, along U.S.40, The National Road.

    The County Seat is Danville, pretty much right in the middle of the county.

    'Back in the 1950s, Plainfield was already a fairly big town, being right on U.S.40, but it isn't the county seat. I was surprised to confirm with Tom Costin, the WWII Veteran and former Buick dealer who was among my passengers in the parade, that there was not a Buick dealership in Plainfield until he and a money-man from Indianpolis, GM dealer "Red" Dellen, opened Costin Buick in Plainfield in 1956.

    The County Seat (Danville) had a Buick dealership all along, Hackleman Auto Sales, IIRC, so there was Buick representation in the county, but it was in the county seat maybe 12 miles from Plainfield and nowhere near important, pre-interstate U.S.40.

    That underscores the importance of county seats in rural America in the 1950s, before the interstate highway system was built. County Seats were truly the center of commerce and "happenings" at the time, so every car and truck (and tractor and farm implement!) manufacturer would have wanted to be represented in the county seat regardless of where it was located.

    Even Studebaker had a dealership in Danville, in the picture I've posted previously:



    And, my, how things change. Today, there is not one new-car or new truck or new tractor/farm implement dealership in Danville IN, the county seat; not one! Twenty years ago, Chevrolet, Ford, Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth, Oldsmobile, and GMC all had new-car dealerships in Danville IN. Today, ZERO.

    (Chevrolet, Ford, Chrysler, and GMC all have dealerships in Hendricks County IN, as well as Buick, but they are not in Danville.) BP

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  • StudeDave57
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    A BIG thank you to all who make stuff like this happen.

    Fifty years from now-
    maybe I will be the Veteran ridin' in the back of some cool 'vert...?





    StudeDave '57
    USN (retired)

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