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  • ROADRACELARK
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    Here!! Here! John. What a great explanation, correct in every way. Right on.

    Dan Miller
    Auburn, GA

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  • RareBird
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    I started out with a California car with a great body. I overhauled engine myself, had tranny gone through ( since it was out), I did most of mechanical myself. Having the body stipped and repainted and Southeast Studebaker completly redo the interior I am looking at approx. 42K with cost of car and trucking it back to Ohio.
    My advise - if your going drop that kind of cash, you better A) Restore the car you really want
    B) Plan on keeping the car for some time. C) Have an understanding wife!!
    Last edited by RareBird; 07-26-2012, 09:53 AM.

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  • jclary
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    Originally posted by ROADRACELARK View Post
    This day and time......it's cheaper to buy one already done.....save yourself a lot of headaches.

    Dan Miller
    Auburn, GA.
    A ton of wisdom in the above statement. Especially if you dislike getting your hands dirty, do not have mechanical skills, and, once the job is completed, think you will have a "new" car to perform the same as other "new" modern cars.

    Let's face it...some folks just are not cut out to be active, participating, car hobbiest. I have seen it too often... dive in with unrealistic (but exciting) enthusiasm, eager to join clubs, seek office positions, and eat up the attention. Only to be come disillusioned the first time the water pump fails, gas or oil leaks, or the wiring shorts out. Sadly, I have seen some pretty nice people come and go in the past years. It is also a sad reality that most of these folks end up taking a financial bath on their cars.


    It is easy to get carried away by the chrome, rumble, and even the quaintness of some of our rides. But, if you have an aversion to tinkering, sweat, tow trucks, improvising, and grease...better to buy with "re-sale" attitude as your realistic back up plan.

    There are folks like me who enjoy working on the cars as much as driving and showing them off. I know others who enjoy their cars and are willing to pay others to do any work that the vehicle needs. As long as you are well grounded in reality, either way works. It is the folks that think you can pay others and get by on the cheap that get hurt.

    In my opinion, any restorable '57 GH is a worthy project. It probably wouldn't take much more to restore one of those as any other car of similar size when it comes to labor and materials. The question posed is very subjective and too many variables to put a set figure. How good are you at negotiating, sizing up the capabilities of people you hire, setting goals, time constraints, and, oh yeah...how much money can you spend?

    The good restorers are going to give you a cost-plus plan. It will be a phase project. Any person who would give you a set quote is (in my opinion) not a good businessman. I knew a person whose talent for restoration work was second to none. He gave a set quote on a museum quality brass-era Cadillac. After a couple of years, lawsuits, seemingly endless search for parts, one-off fabrication of unobtainable parts, the stunning car was completed. However, the contracted restorer was bankrupt, lost his fancy home in a gated community, and eventually his wife.

    It is a great hobby, but not worth all that.

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  • swvalcon
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    Jimc. I would think Omaha would be cheaper than that. What where the labor rates they where hitting you with? I'am a semi retired body guy with a small shop out back. I try to get my labor rate to fall in at around $35. plus supplies and parts at cost. Needless to say I stay pretty busy. Not sure how to post pictures on here or I would put up some of my work.

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  • 64V19816
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    The high costs of hiring ANYONE to do any work for you is what is slowly slaughtering the antique car hobby. As owners age, restrictions mount on home work; spraying, parts cars..., we find ourselves at the point where the car is forced to "sit". It's sad. Those 80K figures you guys toss around....yeah hahaha that's just not in the world of Studebakers or Studebaker owners. Thanks for telling us that.... That's what makes cars "sit".

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  • JimC
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    Low estimate: Arm and a leg. High estimate: Low estimate, plus your firstborn child.

    I was quoted a ballpark figure of 15,000 just to have the body work (and I think that might even have been sans painting) done on the Lark by a restoration shop. That didn't include mechanical, interior, or anything outside of the steel repair.

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  • jg61hawk
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    Put the following in the Advanced Search Box at the top of the page: "Present Day Studebaker Shops". This thread lists a whole bunch or shops for restoration and repair. I have said enough.

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  • warrlaw1
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    Yup. All of the above. Mine cost $50,000 to build, it appraised in at $30,000 and I'll drive it 'til I die, then someone can have it for $20,000. No regrets. I built the car I wanted, learned so much in the process and expensed most of it through the business...now there's a money saving tip!

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  • ROADRACELARK
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    This day and time......it's cheaper to buy one already done.....save yourself a lot of headaches.

    Dan Miller
    Auburn, GA.

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  • jg61hawk
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    Low: Just running and quick paint:$15,000.00.

    High: Restored 400 point car $55,000.00 and this assumes you can do a lot of work. If you can't turn a wrench $80,000.00

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  • jg61hawk
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    Only you know how far you want to go but I did a 61 Hawk and here are some thoughts: Do you just want it running and painted or do you want a 400 point show car? If you want 400 point car consider this- Wheel covers, tires, and labor to sandblast and paint the rims $1500.00 right there. All the chrome (grills too) redone- probably $ 5000.00 or higher. The entire brake system (drums etc.) as opposed to just wheel cylinders $2500.00. Gas tank restored-$800.00. You just spent $10,000.00 and the body isn't even touched or talked about. See my point is painting a car is one thing, really restoring it is something completely different. Somewhere around 1,100 manhours to get it pretty right. Are you paying for those hours or are they your hours of "FREE" time?

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  • swvalcon
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    A lot depends on the condition of your car and how many hours to complete the job. All restoration shops charge by the hour myself included. labor rates vary by location and rep of shop. Send me some pictures of the car showing any bad areas and just a general veiw of the car and I will tell you what I would charge to do it. Not saying you would what to ship it to mn. but will give you a good idea of what you should pay. Most restored cars can be bought cheaper than you can restore one. With the market where it is now even more so. Steve

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  • Bo Markham
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    Originally posted by vmania View Post
    Hello can anyone give me an idea on what a frame-off resto on JUST THE BODY and FRAME would cost?? The motor, tranny and interior are out of the car and I've got NOS fenders and doors,.....Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.... A HIGH and a LOW estimate along with potential people to do this would help.....Thanks!!
    More money then the thing will ever be worth. At that, you will have to continue pooring money into it just to maintain it's restored condition. If your not concerned with such and the car is never going to be considered an investment, go for it. If it's an investment, let someone else worry with it.

    Love em, leave em, your still going to pay for em!

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  • Flashback
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    Get a few estimates on parts and labor cost. Add it ALL up, and then double it.

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  • jimmijim8
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    Originally posted by vmania View Post
    Hello can anyone give me an idea on what a frame-off resto on JUST THE BODY and FRAME would cost?? The motor, tranny and interior are out of the car and I've got NOS fenders and doors,.....Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.... A HIGH and a LOW estimate along with potential people to do this would help.....Thanks!!
    There is no set price approximation. Some pay more for services than others. Lots of variables, condition of your car- competency and quality of work of the shop. Best to have someone knowledgeable to oversee your project sorta acting as your agent to oversee your checkbook. not affiliated with the people working on your car. One thing that I'll bank on. You can buy a turn-key beautiful specimine for less than a restoration in most cases. Pay the price with a loan or if you have the bucks, I have seen many 57 Golden Hawks and comparable nice specimines go for 25,000 and much more less. If you decide on having a shop doing a resto, you are sometimes at their mercy once into the project. Not only that, it may be quite a while before you drive your dream car if you go the resto route. Others will chime in. cheers jimmijim

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