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    This guy has relisted this Avanti parts car six times so far ($300 in ebay fees) and never changes his description or asking price. I wrote him once trying to save him his ebay fees, but he won't listen to any advice.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_W0QQ...mZ140137286777

    JDP/Maryland
    64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
    64 GT R2
    63 GT R2
    63 Lark 2 door
    59 3E truck
    58 Starlight
    52 & 53 Starliner
    51 Commander

    JDP Maryland

  • #2
    As my Dad has said many times, John; "It only takes one."

    In 1955, Dad's dealership was stuck with a leftover 1954 Kaiser Manhattan; a brand-new car. (They had taken on Kaiser-Willys to have the Jeep line to sell...and you thought that was Chrysler's idea, right?)

    He advertised and advertised that Kaiser to no avail; no interested parties of any kind...not even a nibble. They had it almost ten months.

    Then, one day, the only customers in the world who had ever expressed an interest in the car wandered in and bought it...just like that! [:0] BP
    We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

    Ayn Rand:
    "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

    G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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    • #3
      As my Dad has said many times, John; "It only takes one."

      In 1955, Dad's dealership was stuck with a leftover 1954 Kaiser Manhattan; a brand-new car. (They had taken on Kaiser-Willys to have the Jeep line to sell...and you thought that was Chrysler's idea, right?)

      He advertised and advertised that Kaiser to no avail; no interested parties of any kind...not even a nibble. They had it almost ten months.

      Then, one day, the only customers in the world who had ever expressed an interest in the car wandered in and bought it...just like that! [:0] BP
      We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

      Ayn Rand:
      "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

      G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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      • #4
        I seem to recall that someone mentioned that he is mostly a MOPAR guy and tends to be high on his prices. I believe that he has come down a couple of grand on his price, but one would think he could at least drag it out of the weeds.


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        • #5
          I seem to recall that someone mentioned that he is mostly a MOPAR guy and tends to be high on his prices. I believe that he has come down a couple of grand on his price, but one would think he could at least drag it out of the weeds.


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          • #6
            The interesting thing about sending helpful Studebaker advice to an eBay seller is how they respond. I've had some entertaining exchanges, and some who used the info to change their listings. One guy even replied about how dumbass his ad looked after thinking about what kind of enthusiasts buy Studebakers - this was from a dealer who listed in his ad an Avanti street racing victory over some nameless Camaro (which probably wasn't really racing the Avanti).

            After reading lots of eBay ads for Avantis I now realize that the single biggest source of crap stories and weird made up Studebaker history comes directly from the sellers!

            Okay, I've seen that "Priced to sell" ad through numerous listings. The guy definitely has his own ideas, and there isn't anyone who will change his mind. What will probably happen is that because no buyers are willing to deal with his crap, that he will badmouth Stude nuts as morons because they are too stupid to see things his way.

            Thomas

            First year Stude guy! Long time hot rodder
            '63 Avanti R2 4 speed

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            • #7
              The interesting thing about sending helpful Studebaker advice to an eBay seller is how they respond. I've had some entertaining exchanges, and some who used the info to change their listings. One guy even replied about how dumbass his ad looked after thinking about what kind of enthusiasts buy Studebakers - this was from a dealer who listed in his ad an Avanti street racing victory over some nameless Camaro (which probably wasn't really racing the Avanti).

              After reading lots of eBay ads for Avantis I now realize that the single biggest source of crap stories and weird made up Studebaker history comes directly from the sellers!

              Okay, I've seen that "Priced to sell" ad through numerous listings. The guy definitely has his own ideas, and there isn't anyone who will change his mind. What will probably happen is that because no buyers are willing to deal with his crap, that he will badmouth Stude nuts as morons because they are too stupid to see things his way.

              Thomas

              First year Stude guy! Long time hot rodder
              '63 Avanti R2 4 speed

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              • #8
                My guess is the car is much worse than it looks. There is a theory held by certain eBay sellers that no description of condition allows a enthusiastic/inexperienced buyer to assume/hope it is a solid, sound car. When the buyer gets a rusted hunk of junk, the seller can say truthfully, "It was described as a parts car. No more, no less."

                thnx, jack vines

                PackardV8
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                • #9
                  My guess is the car is much worse than it looks. There is a theory held by certain eBay sellers that no description of condition allows a enthusiastic/inexperienced buyer to assume/hope it is a solid, sound car. When the buyer gets a rusted hunk of junk, the seller can say truthfully, "It was described as a parts car. No more, no less."

                  thnx, jack vines

                  PackardV8
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                  • #10
                    quote:Originally posted by Thomas63R2

                    What will probably happen is that because no buyers are willing to deal with his crap, that he will badmouth Stude nuts as morons because they are too stupid to see things his way.
                    ...Or try to feed the myth that Stude folks are super-cheapskates[)] When I bought all that NOS stuff at an auction last year I was warned that I paid too much b/c Stude people were so "cheap"... then proceeded to get shocked repeatedly by what the stuff drew!

                    I have to laugh when I hear someone try to shoot down Stude people as cheapskates... I'm sure there are a few, but not any more than in any other group.

                    Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
                    Parish, central NY 13131
                    http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

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                    • #11
                      quote:Originally posted by Thomas63R2

                      What will probably happen is that because no buyers are willing to deal with his crap, that he will badmouth Stude nuts as morons because they are too stupid to see things his way.
                      ...Or try to feed the myth that Stude folks are super-cheapskates[)] When I bought all that NOS stuff at an auction last year I was warned that I paid too much b/c Stude people were so "cheap"... then proceeded to get shocked repeatedly by what the stuff drew!

                      I have to laugh when I hear someone try to shoot down Stude people as cheapskates... I'm sure there are a few, but not any more than in any other group.

                      Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
                      Parish, central NY 13131
                      http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

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                      • #12
                        I guess it's true Studebakers sell for less than other brands, and that's great for those who want to buy Studebakers. But it sure seems the Avantis, Hawks and GT Hawks fetch a very high price compared to Larks.

                        That is fine with me, as I really want to get a Lark before too long. Let's see, wish list: 1960 2 door Lark VIII Wagon, or a 1963 Custom or Cruiser, with a V8 of course.

                        [img=left]http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]DilloCrafter

                        1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
                        The Red-Headed Amazon
                        Deep in the heart of Texas

                        Paul Simpson
                        "DilloCrafter"

                        1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
                        The Red-Headed Amazon
                        Deep in the heart of Texas

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                        • #13
                          I guess it's true Studebakers sell for less than other brands, and that's great for those who want to buy Studebakers. But it sure seems the Avantis, Hawks and GT Hawks fetch a very high price compared to Larks.

                          That is fine with me, as I really want to get a Lark before too long. Let's see, wish list: 1960 2 door Lark VIII Wagon, or a 1963 Custom or Cruiser, with a V8 of course.

                          [img=left]http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]DilloCrafter

                          1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
                          The Red-Headed Amazon
                          Deep in the heart of Texas

                          Paul Simpson
                          "DilloCrafter"

                          1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
                          The Red-Headed Amazon
                          Deep in the heart of Texas

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                          • #14
                            There was a '57 President Classic on ebay about 2 years ago. It was priced CHEAP and looked like a decent, unrestored car. The seller knew little about it (as was evident from his ad) and so I wrote him with some minor corrections.
                            To my surprize, he not only thanked me for the advice but asked how I would present to car to entice someone into buying it(it didn't get one bid the first time around).
                            I told him what and how to photograph and what to say both good an bad about it and he followed my advice to the letter. It sold for more than he'd hoped on the next go-around!
                            He even bothered to write and thank me after the sale.

                            Of course, then you get the ones that reply: Bid or shut up!

                            Miscreant adrift in
                            the BerStuda Triangle


                            1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                            1960 Larkvertible V8
                            1958 Provincial wagon
                            1953 Commander coupe

                            No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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                            • #15
                              There was a '57 President Classic on ebay about 2 years ago. It was priced CHEAP and looked like a decent, unrestored car. The seller knew little about it (as was evident from his ad) and so I wrote him with some minor corrections.
                              To my surprize, he not only thanked me for the advice but asked how I would present to car to entice someone into buying it(it didn't get one bid the first time around).
                              I told him what and how to photograph and what to say both good an bad about it and he followed my advice to the letter. It sold for more than he'd hoped on the next go-around!
                              He even bothered to write and thank me after the sale.

                              Of course, then you get the ones that reply: Bid or shut up!

                              Miscreant adrift in
                              the BerStuda Triangle


                              1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                              1960 Larkvertible V8
                              1958 Provincial wagon
                              1953 Commander coupe

                              No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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