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    Pop Quiz: Indy 500 & The Chicken Hawk?

    OK, the Pop Quizzes have been getting answered 'waaaay too quickly, so it's time to put one out there that will require a little noggin' scratchin.'

    Consider these Two Facts:

    1. The only V-12 engine to ever finish The Indianapolis 500 Mile Race was a Packard V-12.

    2. Ted Harbit and the famous Chicken Hawk had their unfortunate mishap that destroyed the car just over three years ago: May 9, 2009. As always, it was powered by a Studebaker V8 engine.

    Pop Quiz Question:

    What technical specification was common to both the Packard V-12 in Fact #1 and the Studebaker V-8 in Fact #2? And what was that specification? (Must have both parts of the answer to be correct.)


    The first person to post the correct answer wins their choice of:

    1. Two NOS Studebaker Red Ball letterhead envelopes for their "smalls" collection
    OR
    2. A copy of the 1962 Lark Pace Car mailer I just had reprinted.
    Last edited by BobPalma; 05-23-2012, 01:11 PM. Reason: clarification
    We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

    G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.
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    They both had the same bore and stroke.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by M15 Trucker View Post
      They both had the same bore and stroke.
      Nope.

      Hint: If they did, the correct answer wouldn't be correct. BP
      We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

      G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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      • #4
        both had the same hp and torque ratings?
        1960 Lark VIII Regal Wagon

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cultural infidel View Post
          both had the same hp and torque ratings?
          Nope....I don't believe Ted ever had the last iteration of The Chicken Hawk's engine on a dyno, so that engine's actual torque and HP ratings are unknown. BP
          We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

          G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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          • #6
            Same cubic displacement. 445.5ci or 7.3L?
            That would be one heck of a bored and stroked Stude motor, but not impossible with sleeves.

            Or was the indy motor 335ci? That would be more in line with a built Stude motor.
            Last edited by kmac530; 05-23-2012, 01:45 PM. Reason: add

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            • #7
              They both had 160 degree thermostats.
              TDITS The Dude In The Stude

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TDITS View Post
                They both had 160 degree thermostats.
                Not that I know of! <GG> BP
                We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

                G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kmac530 View Post
                  Same cubic displacement. 445.5ci or 7.3L?
                  That would be one heck of a bored and stroked Stude motor, but not impossible with sleeves.

                  Or was the Indy motor 335ci? That would be more in line with a built Stude motor.
                  You're scooting closer to the campfire (i.e., getting wamer) than everyone else so far, Kelly, but not close enough for the firecracker to go off. BP
                  We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

                  G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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                  • #10
                    ok bob, i''l try: what is 2/3rds the size (chicken hawk 8 cyl) of the indy packard V12?
                    Kerry. SDC Member #A012596W. ENCSDC member.

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                    • #11
                      They both ran on 8 cylinders. Which is why the Packard did not win.

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                      • #12
                        They were both extremely fast cars.
                        Chris Dresbach

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BobGlasscock View Post
                          They both ran on 8 cylinders. Which is why the Packard did not win.
                          Good answer Bob!
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                          • #14
                            Chris and Bob: You guys are funny.

                            Kerry: I'm not sure I understand the question about 2/3 the size.

                            There is a straightforward numerical specification that both engines share.

                            We all recognize what that specification "means," so this is not a trick in any way, nor is it obscure. (For example, let's say they both had the same piston pin diameter. That would be obscure and in my opinion unfair, so it's nothing like that. If you knew this specification for the Harbit engine, you could post it and take a stab by saying it was the same for the Packard V-12. If you were right, you'd win even though you didn't really know the Packard's specification...and the Harbit specification has been published in Turning Wheels several times through the years.)

                            (Well, thank goodness; a Pop Quiz that finally took longer than an hour to be answered!)
                            BP
                            We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

                            G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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                            • #15
                              Number of Valves per Cylinder: Two

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