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    Hopefully no one on this forum is looking at/ bidding on this car...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FACTO...item519c9ac034

    I asked the seller 3 times what the oil pressure was (warm) at idle and at 2000 rpm.

    Each time he came back with " I don't understand what you're asking".... When I replied the 4th time as to whether I should explain further, he just blew me off..

    I'll presume he has something to hide..
    64 GT Hawk (K7)
    1970 Avanti (R3)

  • #2
    Yah-but.... It's got that elusive R-series WS washer resevoir bag!
    No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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    • #3
      He or she probably really doesn't understand. That ad copy was obviously written by a salesman - one that probably has no idea what all othose fancy doodads on that shiny dashboard mean. The only way he or she knows if oil pressure is down is when the idiot light on the dashboard comes on - otherwise, it's all nice to look at but means little to 'em.

      Ask him/her to go out to the shop and ask a mechanic the same question on your behalf.

      Mike O'Handley
      Kenmore, Washington
      hausdok@msn.com
      Mike O'Handley, Cat Herder Third Class
      Kenmore, Washington
      hausdok@msn.com

      '58 Packard Hawk
      '05 Subaru Baja Turbo
      '71 Toyota Crown Coupe
      '69 Pontiac Firebird
      (What is it with me and discontinued/orphan cars?)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Roscomacaw View Post
        Yah-but.... It's got that elusive R-series WS washer resevoir bag!
        But does that bag actually say "american motors corp" on it? Is that correct for a Stude/Pack car?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kmac530 View Post
          But does that bag actually say "american motors corp" on it? Is that correct for a Stude/Pack car?
          Studebaker, AMC and Ford used an identical reservoir bag...they and Studebaker probably sourced them from the same vendor. Only the markings applied made a difference.

          Whomever installed that reservoir bag either found an original or reproduction AMC bag since it fit.
          Poet...Mystic...Soldier of Fortune. As always...self-absorbed, adversarial, cocky and in general a malcontent.

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          • #6
            It's got enough battery cable to relocate it to the trunk

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            • #7
              I've got three customers that have purchased hawks from out of state (just happen to be texas) site unseen. One of them got burnt REAL bad, one other probably wouldn't have purchased it if he'd inspected it. The 3rd guy got a very solid car, he has spent some major money on top of the purchase price to make it a very nice driver/show car. My point is with the network we have within the SDC there is no reason one can't have a inspection done. What it costs to fix cars I'd highly discourage any purchase without a personal or very good unbiased inspection. I know there have been many on this forum that have succesfully made mutltiple purchases without inpections IMHO that is not wise.
              Russ

              Originally posted by 64V-K7 View Post
              Hopefully no one on this forum is looking at/ bidding on this car...

              http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FACTO...item519c9ac034

              I asked the seller 3 times what the oil pressure was (warm) at idle and at 2000 rpm.

              Each time he came back with " I don't understand what you're asking".... When I replied the 4th time as to whether I should explain further, he just blew me off..

              I'll presume he has something to hide..

              Russ Shop Foreman \"Rusty Nut Garage\"
              53 2R6 289 5SpdOD (driver)
              57 SH (project)
              60 Lark VIII 2dr sd (driver)

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              • #8
                I have been to Fast 440. It is nothing but a big indoor car lot. And the sales man doesn't have a clue about none of the cars. I was looking at a Dodge Super Bee and he didn't know anything about it.

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                • #9
                  Wow! That stainless trim would keep Matthew busy the rest of the year. BP
                  We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

                  Ayn Rand:
                  "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

                  G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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                  • #10
                    My impression is it's an honest car. First thing is the serial tag; looks legit. The photos make a point to show a lot of warts, like the spotted trim and grungy headliner. They tried to show the repaint inside of the doors, even a close-up of the wear around the ignition switch.

                    I think it's just an uneducated seller. Probably not a car guy, just someone trying to make a buck, as opposed to someone passionate enough to learn the best way to market a collector car. If you look at his feedback, there were some encouraging comments. Especially interesting in light of your concern is this one regarding a Dodge Coronet: Honest & trustworthy. Engine problem after auction. Seller cancelled transaction. That makes me think that the seller really isn't avoiding your question, but actually doesn't know what you mean, and gave up. Yes, it's poor business, but it might still be a good car to buy. At least where it's at as of this writing is OK even if it did need engine work.

                    Were I interested in buying I'd like to see some underside shots, and that trunk carpet rolled back; but my overall feel is this is a car I'd be comfortable buying. He sold a $65K Nova over the phone and the seller was happy. And, I don't see any real red flags looking at the pictures. My opinion is, if it's what you want, bid. And, don't forget to add the seller's required $150 fee to your bid.

                    Good luck!
                    Proud NON-CASO

                    I do not prize the word "cheap." It is not a badge of honor...it is a symbol of despair. ~ William McKinley

                    If it is decreed that I should go down, then let me go down linked with the truth - let me die in the advocacy of what is just and right.- Lincoln

                    GOD BLESS AMERICA

                    Ephesians 6:10-17
                    Romans 15:13
                    Deuteronomy 31:6
                    Proverbs 28:1

                    Illegitimi non carborundum

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                    • #11
                      I know without looking you're talking about the yellow Hawk- They always say pictures hide a lot,but this one looks like a quickie repainted garbage can,even in pictures. Might as well just say the car needs EVERYTHING.
                      Oglesby,Il.

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                      • #12
                        Calling them an idiot is a bit harsh.
                        In this age of idiot lights, I'd wager a lot of people don't know what an oil pressure guage is...or what it does and tells you about a car.

                        I agree, with the SDC members out there, no reason not to have someone look at a car before buying long distance.
                        63 Avanti R1 2788
                        1914 Stutz Bearcat
                        (George Barris replica)

                        Washington State

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