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    Maybe I'm being a bit touchy tonight but I was just surfing Ebay and I was surprised to see someone selling a photo of the engine compartment of my '64 Daytona convertible. I guess this rubs me the wrong way because I spent a lot of time, effort and money restoring that engine compartment and to see someone charge for photos of it bothers me.

    If anyone really needs a photo like this I'm sure there must be dozens of people on this forum who would post/email a picture FOR FREE. If anyone wants a photo of my engine compartment just let me know and I'll send you whatever you need - free. I'll even throw in a "before" shot - again for free.


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-STUDEBA...item25632a30bc
    Neil

    1964 Daytona Convertible
    1964 Daytona Hardtop
    1962 Champ Truck
    1957 Golden Hawk

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    That one sells tons of 4x6 pictures on eBay. Or should I say, lists them, anyway. Don't know how many he actually sells. I recognize a lot of them.

    Of course, once a picture hits the 'net it's fair game to anyone, forever. I would never have taken the time to reproduce them and try to sell them. I wonder how many he actually sells?
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    • #3
      Why not contact him and ask for it to be removed? I've bought stuff from him and he's pleasant to deal with.
      John Clements
      Christchurch, New Zealand

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      • #4
        Neil, is it possible that it's a factory photo and only looks identical to your car?
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        • #5
          It's happened to me.

          I was flattered.
          Dick Steinkamp
          Bellingham, WA

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          • #6
            The only way to guarantee that no one takes a picture of your car in public is to never allow it to leave to confines of your garage.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Milaca View Post
              Neil, is it possible that it's a factory photo and only looks identical to your car?
              Here's what gives this away for me. See the fuel line? I did a sloppy job with the bends on both sides of the fuel filter. The bend on one side is too sharp and is almost kinked (I really need to fix this!). The other side is almost one big radius. I've been meaning to redo these but have been working on other things. Also, the master cylinder is a reproduction and I had to use adapters to attach the brake line at the bottom and the pressure switch at the front. I guess owners are usually the most critical of their own cars. Here are a couple pictures I took this morning. I've nicely asked the guy to pull this ad. I should feel flattered. I just don't like to have people pay for something they could get for free.

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              Neil

              1964 Daytona Convertible
              1964 Daytona Hardtop
              1962 Champ Truck
              1957 Golden Hawk

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bob Andrews View Post
                Of course, once a picture hits the 'net it's fair game to anyone, forever. I would never have taken the time to reproduce them and try to sell them. I wonder how many he actually sells?
                This is true for the most part, but there have been pictures put on the net, to include ebay, that other folks have the rights to. Those are out of bounds. I love Google Images, but there are things on there that you must be careful of using, because they are not public domain.
                Joe Roberts
                '61 R1 Champ
                '65 Cruiser
                Eastern North Carolina Chapter

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                • #9
                  If you hire a photographer, the pictures belong to you.
                  If a photographer wants to photograph your vehicle for a project, that's a different story.
                  Most 'Professional' photographers will have you sign a release allowing them to use your picture.
                  Whether it is an Ebay ad, or a calendar, they should at least ask when the picture is being sold, or used in a profit making concern..
                  The Internet has blurred the rules, even if they are just formalities.
                  But, if you display your vehicle at a public venue, then the pictures people take are in the public domain.
                  I had this explained to me by a professional photgrapher...at a car show (SDC regional meet)...because I asked out of curiosity.
                  I am not a copyright lawyer, nor do I play one on TV... Just a swag comment..
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                  Jeff
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                  • #10
                    I was surprised, albeit pleasantly, to see Tom K., at Reedsville, selling two different 8 1/2 by 11 photos of the Carl E. Filer dealership in my hometown, that were both Turning Wheels' inside covers...one a B&W from '47 and one a color from '58. I had submitted small-size photos of them to TW. I bought one of each from Tom(LOL)!
                    Bill Pressler
                    Kent, OH
                    (formerly Greenville, PA)
                    Currently owned: 1966 Cruiser, Timberline Turquoise, 26K miles
                    Formerly owned: 1963 Lark Daytona Skytop R1, Ermine White
                    1964 Daytona Hardtop, Strato Blue
                    1966 Daytona Sports Sedan, Niagara Blue Mist
                    All are in Australia now

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                    • #11
                      You can always put your name or some identifier on your pics before you post them online (photoshop works nicely for this). This usually stops people from using, or at least selling your pics.

                      Joe
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                      1962 Daytona
                      1964 Cruiser
                      And a few others

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                      • #12
                        I can feel for your original reaction.
                        I "Had" a friend who I helped with the original design of his car (created the concept) and helped along the way with the actual build.
                        Never did get as much as a "Thank You" or any slim part of the recognition for any of my imput and work.
                        I too took pictures as we worked out in the shop and e-mailed them back to my friend when I returned each night from the 150 mile round trip to help him out.
                        When the car became famous and he took all the credit, that was a bit of a blow. But when the pictures I had taken started to appear in magazines, again without my permission or a small credit, that is when I started getting the same gut feeling you are having.
                        Pissed me off!
                        But what can you do?
                        I just decided to be the bigger "Man"
                        Now the "Boy" is struggling because he has lost his wife and all of his other "Old Friends" do to his big head.
                        Only the groupies left!
                        And I can only feel "What goes around, comes around"
                        Sorry for the rant, but now I feel so much better.
                        I have been holding that one in for a long long time.
                        Good Roads
                        Brian
                        Brian Woods
                        woodysrods@shaw.ca
                        1946 M Series (Shop Truck)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by irish View Post
                          You can always put your name or some identifier on your pics before you post them online (photoshop works nicely for this). This usually stops people from using, or at least selling your pics.
                          As I understand the situation the picture was taken by a third party of the OP's car. I do not see any reference to the pictures being his, rather he is upset that it is his car that is appearing in the images. Not sure why that would be an issue, but apparently it is of concern for him.
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                          • #14
                            I guess I missed that part. If the pics were taken by a third party (such as the person selling the pics) I don't think you can do anything about that. I would be flattered if I was in that situation, but everybody is entitled to their own feelings/opinions on the subject.

                            Joe
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                            1964 Cruiser
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                            • #15
                              Thats right, I was searching for Speedster stuff one day and found a site selling my car. It was all in arabic but it was my car. The picture was taken at the Syracuse Nationals has i Could see my buddies 55 Buick next to it. The picture clearly showed my "I LIKE IKE" front license plate. Has Guido stated; once in the public you have no control.

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                              Originally posted by Guido View Post
                              The only way to guarantee that no one takes a picture of your car in public is to never allow it to leave to confines of your garage.
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