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Why is the Ranchero considered the first American coupe utility vehicle over a Coupe Express?

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  • Why is the Ranchero considered the first American coupe utility vehicle over a Coupe Express?

    Anyone know?

  • #2
    Sure - cause Ford's still in business. And if we treat them right, they'll honor us with more ad revenue.
    No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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    • #3
      It probably has more to do with the fact that the Coupe Express had a separate bed from the cab whereas the Ranchero and El Camino had bed and body combined.
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      Jim Mann
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      • #4
        Actually, it's probably nothing more than the fact that people don't have a clue that Studebaker had the Coupe Express long before the Ranchero came into existance.
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        Smithtown,NY
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        • #5
          I think that's probably closer to the truth. In a word - ignorance. It's like my spreading the word about how Studes rule at the muscle car drags. You can see the degree of receptiveness in the eyes of non-Stude types. They pretty much figure I'm spreading something other than "the word". <G>
          No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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          • #6
            And the Hudson folks will argue that the Terraplane Pick up had Studebaker beat by at least a year... Here's a 1936

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            • #7
              Originally posted by StudeMann View Post
              It probably has more to do with the fact that the Coupe Express had a separate bed from the cab whereas the Ranchero and El Camino had bed and body combined.
              That is one parameter, and built on a passenger car frame. However, the first car-based pickup with an integrated body & box is the Crosley.

              Craig

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 8E45E View Post
                That is one parameter, and built on a passenger car frame. However, the first car-based pickup with an integrated body & box is the Crosley.

                Craig
                Probably true, but with thousands of different car manufacturers over the years... who knows?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DudeStude View Post
                  Anyone know?
                  For exactly the same reason the 1964 Pontiac LeMans with GTO package (it was not a separate model until 1966, contrary to popular belief) is generally accepted as the first muscle car, the 1963 Super Lark nothwithstanding...or any of a dozen other earlier cars, for that matter. BP
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                  • #10
                    So few sold and most people alive can't remember that far back.

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                    • #11
                      Am I missing something?
                      A ranchero and el camino are different than a Coupe Express or a Hudson Terraplane mainly because it is a one piece cab/bed vehichle like StudeMann said where the Coupe express has a separated bed.
                      If you wanna spilt hairs and go way back, were not the teens and 20s Ford model A and model AA the same basic chassis and same hood, fenders, cowl, grill shell, and even doors?
                      Wouldn't that make the early fords the first american coupe utility?

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                      • #12
                        I think the first "Ute" vehicle was designed and built by Lew Bandt of Ford Australia in the 1930s. he later died in it but it was restored. http://www.fastlane.com.au/Features/First_ute.htm
                        John Clements
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                        • #13
                          I think it's because most hobbyists today are most familiar with post-WWII cars and don't know about many automotive "firsts" that occurred before the early 1940s.

                          For example, everyone thinks Chevy's first V-8 was the 1955, but they also came out with one way back in their early days. (It was a real piece of junk too, IIRC what I read about it.)

                          Dave Bonn
                          '54 Champion Starliner

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by avantilover View Post
                            I think the first "Ute" vehicle was designed and built by Lew Bandt of Ford Australia in the 1930s. he later died in it but it was restored. http://www.fastlane.com.au/Features/First_ute.htm
                            Australia is the car-based truck (Ute) capital of the world! For years, there were, and still are car-based trucks you would never think of such as Armstrong-Siddeley who exclusively marketed them there. And Ford and Holden still have them on the market today. http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/ute#/overview

                            Craig
                            Last edited by 8E45E; 11-10-2011, 06:59 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Just for the record, the first Chevrolet V-8 was 1917. It wasn't very good.
                              Rog
                              '59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop
                              Smithtown,NY
                              Recording Secretary, Long Island Studebaker Club

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