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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by Stu Chapman View Post
    Larry confirms the Wagonaire was built with a 259 and he replaced it with an R1 engine which he took from a 63 Hawk which he parted out. Serial number is 64V11588. The car came from Florida, sold by a Daytona Beach Studebaker dealer. Larry attached the dealer ID as a tribute to Archie, who actually drove the car before he passed away.
    Stu Chapman
    Excellent, Stu; thanks so much. I believe I'll be making some phone calls! <GGG> BP

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  • Stu Chapman
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    Originally posted by BobPalma View Post
    Thank you so much, Stu; please do let me know what you find out. I just checked MapQuest and see that we drove maybe 30 miles east of West Rupert when we went to Bennington! Thanks again. Bob
    Larry confirms the Wagonaire was built with a 259 and he replaced it with an R1 engine which he took from a 63 Hawk which he parted out. Serial number is 64V11588. The car came from Florida, sold by a Daytona Beach Studebaker dealer. Larry attached the dealer ID as a tribute to Archie, who actually drove the car before he passed away.
    Stu Chapman

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  • dpson
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    Stu,

    The last I knew Archie's late production 66 wagon is now owned by Jim and Nancy Willette of St. Albans, VT.

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  • Stu Chapman
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    Originally posted by BobPalma View Post
    Thank you so much, Stu; please do let me know what you find out. I just checked MapQuest and see that we drove maybe 30 miles east of West Rupert when we went to Bennington! Thanks again. Bob
    You were pretty close. The picture of Larry's car on the Hemmings site I believe was taken when Larry was showing it in Bennington.
    Stu Chapman

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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by Stu Chapman View Post
    This car belongs to Larry Golub of Longwood, Florida and West Rupert, Vermont. He keeps it at his summer place in VT. It did not come from Archie Myers originally but from Florida. It does have an R motor but I don't recall if it's an R1 or R2. I've emailed Larry to find out and will let you know. Some years ago Larry introduced me to Archie when he still had a 66 Wagonaire in his garage. Based on the serial number it was the last Wagonaire built and either the 4th or 5th last Studebaker built. Archie had kept it all those years because of its history but was willing to sell it to me. It would have required far too much money to bring it up to show condition so I passed on it. Maybe Larry knows where it went. I also have an Archie Myers dealer sticker that he gave me.
    Stu Chapman
    Thank you so much, Stu; please do let me know what you find out. I just checked MapQuest and see that we drove maybe 30 miles east of West Rupert when we went to Bennington! Thanks again. Bob

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  • Stu Chapman
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    More about the white wagonaire

    Originally posted by BobPalma View Post
    Holy crap, Joe; that's on the rear of an Astra White 1964 Daytona Wagonaire with R-engine power! I want it!

    Great find! BP

    This car belongs to Larry Golub of Longwood, Florida and West Rupert, Vermont. He keeps it at his summer place in VT. It did not come from Archie Myers originally but from Florida. It does have an R motor but I don't recall if it's an R1 or R2. I've emailed Larry to find out and will let you know. Some years ago Larry introduced me to Archie when he still had a 66 Wagonaire in his garage. Based on the serial number it was the last Wagonaire built and either the 4th or 5th last Studebaker built. Archie had kept it all those years because of its history but was willing to sell it to me. It would have required far too much money to bring it up to show condition so I passed on it. Maybe Larry knows where it went. I also have an Archie Myers dealer sticker that he gave me.
    Stu Chapman

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  • dpson
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    I believe the white 63 wagon is owned by Larry Golub of Rupert, VT. He knew Archie Myers for many years. As I recall that car didn't come from Archie's dealership, Larry got the NOS dealer emblem from Archie and added it to the car after the fact. Here is a related link from HMN: http://www.hemmingsdigital.com/hemmi...10/?pg=61#pg61 .

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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by Bill Pressler View Post
    Bob, Sheila has moved my TW's to the basement and I'm supposed to be working in my upstairs office, but I'm certain I remember that Wagonaire as being judged behind my former '63 Skytop at the South Bend International meet in '02 (at Notre Dame stadium parking lot). I was out there in '97 too--was the show at ND then too? I clearly remember the Wagonaire and the Winooski, VT plate, as Sheila's favorite uncle went to St. Michael's College near there. I am pretty certain I asked the owner if the car was factory-built with the "R" engine and he said 'no', but it looks bone-stock and is a beautiful car. You might check the '02 National Meet TW issue for the owner's name.
    Excellent, Bill. I'll check it out. I can't imagine anyone ever forgetting an encounter with a town named Winooski! Thanks. BP

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  • Bill Pressler
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    Bob, Sheila has moved my TW's to the basement and I'm supposed to be working in my upstairs office, but I'm certain I remember that Wagonaire as being judged behind my former '63 Skytop at the South Bend International meet in '02 (at Notre Dame stadium parking lot). I was out there in '97 too--was the show at ND then too? I clearly remember the Wagonaire and the Winooski, VT plate, as Sheila's favorite uncle went to St. Michael's College near there. I am pretty certain I asked the owner if the car was factory-built with the "R" engine and he said 'no', but it looks bone-stock and is a beautiful car. You might check the '02 National Meet TW issue for the owner's name.

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  • warrlaw1
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    Small world, indeed. My ancestors came from Burlington, Vermont. The Green Mountain Boys walked those streets and later, those same streets hosted Studebakers. Now I hafta go for a visit

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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by dpson View Post
    Archie Myers ran the Studebaker dealership in Winooski, Vermont, which covered the greater Burlington area, from the late 1950's until the end in 1966. He then took on Fiat until the early 1970's at which time the City of Winooski went through a federally sponsored "Urban Renewal" program which tore down the cental business district and made it into a parking lot, this included the building his dealership was located in. That same area has recently been through a second "renewal" and is now in the center of a large traffic circle. Archie kept his Studebaker parts inventory and moved it to a storage building he owned on West Canal Street. I went there a number of times in the 1980's trying to buy parts, but Archie had this notion that the parts were going to be worth big money some day and he really didn't seem to want to part with anything. With that said in the late 80's or perhaps early 90's someone from down south was able to come in and "cherry pick" the inventory and ended up with much of the good stuff; NOS chome, etc. I've been told that there was some sort of problem with the deal and Archie never got paid for the parts. Needless to say after that he really didn't want too much to do with the parts business. After Archie died the parts were moved to his son-in-law's barn in Georgia, Vermont and were eventually sold through an ad in Turning Wheels. I had the good fortune of being able to buy the inventory which included some of the dealership paperwork, such as several of the dealer sales agreements with Studebaker. Sadly two weeks before they sold the inventory his son threw out all of the dealership Studebaker sales records, thinking that nobody would have any interest in them. Oddly the Fiat sales records from the early 70's survived. If you happen to have a vehicle sold by Myers and want photocopies of the dealership agreements, letterhead, etc. please send me a PM and I'll see what I can come up with.
    Geeze, Dan; thanks so much for that report.

    I assume, then, that locating the Serial Number of that white 1964 Daytona Wagonaire wouldn't be possible, in that records of its original sale were among those destroyed?

    Phooey! Armed with a Serial Number, I would think it might be possible to track down the car, since it appears very "extant" in Joe Robert's Hemmings link.

    And with your post, the small world to which I referred got even smaller! I can't believe it: You reference Archie's Studebaker parts ultimately going to a son-in-law's barn in Georgia, Vermont.

    Well, Georgia, Vermont is the actual location of the church in which our son was married ten days ago! I thought it was a long enough shot knowing of and seeing another reference to Winooski in Studebaker-land, and now you mention little Georgia!

    This is so "cool." Thanks for taking the time to post your report, Dan. We thoroughly enjoyed our time in Vermont, too short though it was. BP

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  • 53k
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    Originally posted by dpson View Post
    Archie Myers ran the Studebaker dealership in Winooski, Vermont, which covered the greater Burlington area, from the late 1950's until the end in 1966. He then took on Fiat until the early 1970's at which time the City of Winooski went through a federally sponsored "Urban Renewal" program which tore down the cental business district and made it into a parking lot, this included the building his dealership was located in. That same area has recently been through a second "renewal" and is now in the center of a large traffic circle. Archie kept his Studebaker parts inventory and moved it to a storage building he owned on West Canal Street. I went there a number of times in the 1980's trying to buy parts, but Archie had this notion that the parts were going to be worth big money some day and he really didn't seem to want to part with anything. With that said in the late 80's or perhaps early 90's someone from down south was able to come in and "cherry pick" the inventory and ended up with much of the good stuff; NOS chome, etc. I've been told that there was some sort of problem with the deal and Archie never got paid for the parts. Needless to say after that he really didn't want too much to do with the parts business. After Archie died the parts were moved to his son-in-law's barn in Georgia, Vermont and were eventually sold through an ad in Turning Wheels. I had the good fortune of being able to buy the inventory which included some of the dealership paperwork, such as several of the dealer sales agreements with Studebaker. Sadly two weeks before they sold the inventory his son threw out all of the dealership Studebaker sales records, thinking that nobody would have any interest in them. Oddly the Fiat sales records from the early 70's survived. If you happen to have a vehicle sold by Myers and want photocopies of the dealership agreements, letterhead, etc. please send me a PM and I'll see what I can come up with.
    Thanks for "the rest of the story". I had made Archie an offer for the parts when I was there, but as you say, he wasn't interested in selling. There was truly some gold there. The truck and the two Hawks were in that storage building.

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  • dpson
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    Archie Myers ran the Studebaker dealership in Winooski, Vermont, which covered the greater Burlington area, from the late 1950's until the end in 1966. He then took on Fiat until the early 1970's at which time the City of Winooski went through a federally sponsored "Urban Renewal" program which tore down the cental business district and made it into a parking lot, this included the building his dealership was located in. That same area has recently been through a second "renewal" and is now in the center of a large traffic circle. Archie kept his Studebaker parts inventory and moved it to a storage building he owned on West Canal Street. I went there a number of times in the 1980's trying to buy parts, but Archie had this notion that the parts were going to be worth big money some day and he really didn't seem to want to part with anything. With that said in the late 80's or perhaps early 90's someone from down south was able to come in and "cherry pick" the inventory and ended up with much of the good stuff; NOS chome, etc. I've been told that there was some sort of problem with the deal and Archie never got paid for the parts. Needless to say after that he really didn't want too much to do with the parts business. After Archie died the parts were moved to his son-in-law's barn in Georgia, Vermont and were eventually sold through an ad in Turning Wheels. I had the good fortune of being able to buy the inventory which included some of the dealership paperwork, such as several of the dealer sales agreements with Studebaker. Sadly two weeks before they sold the inventory his son threw out all of the dealership Studebaker sales records, thinking that nobody would have any interest in them. Oddly the Fiat sales records from the early 70's survived. If you happen to have a vehicle sold by Myers and want photocopies of the dealership agreements, letterhead, etc. please send me a PM and I'll see what I can come up with.
    Last edited by dpson; 10-25-2011, 06:39 PM.

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  • JRoberts
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    Originally posted by BobPalma View Post
    Holy crap, Joe; that's on the rear of an Astra White 1964 Daytona Wagonaire with R-engine power! I want it!

    Great find! BP

    I got you the picture, now if I find one for sale I'll be sure to let you know!

    It is indeed a small Studebaker world, isn't it?

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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by JRoberts View Post
    Went to Google Images and found this:

    Came from here originally: http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...-stickers-too/

    Holy crap, Joe; that's on the rear of an Astra White 1964 Daytona Wagonaire with R-engine power! I want it!

    Great find! BP

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