Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Excellent Info RE: E-10 fuel & additive

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • PackardV8
    replied
    FWIW, my area has had 10% ethanol for probably 15-20 years. My '55 E12 had the original fuel tank, lines, pump and carburetor. Other than a 5-10% drop in fuel mileage, there were no noticed problems from then to now.

    jack vines

    Leave a comment:


  • Mike Van Veghten
    replied
    Maybe that's why my dailey driver 259 Lark runs so................

    Yes...it runs just fine on a dose of out of the pump, California fuel. I buy Union 76 (E-10) most of the time. Funny though...like I said, it runs just fine thru an Edelbrock carburetor and stock mechanical pump.
    And my 54 Conestoga...same there, OEM carburetor...even an electric fuel pump, runs just fine (except the wimpy power output..!).

    Every so often, I'll put a bottle of Lucas Fuel Injector Cleaner in to help keep things clean (yes, I know it works).

    The alcohol won't hurt things untill it gets a few more percentage points higher.
    The sky isn't falling just yet...!
    Or am I doing something wrong..?

    Mike

    Leave a comment:


  • studeski
    replied
    Fortunately I have a place 10 miles from me that sells non-ethanol premium.

    Leave a comment:


  • whacker
    replied
    I have used E-10 a couple of times in my 1951 Commander. Within a month of using it both times, my electric fuel pump died, as the bellows in it was not compatible. I have switched to an in-line fuel pump that is compatible (says so on the box). I have also gone to a complete stainless steel fuel line and two fuel filters. I replaced all the rubber hose in the fuel system with fuel injection hose. I should be able to use E-10 now, but I will continue to buy the straight stuff as long as it is available. I still worry about the gaskets in my WCFB, which hasn't been rebuilt yet. I use Rotella-T CI-4 15W-40 oil, as I got a real good price on gallons of it last year.

    Leave a comment:


  • Corvanti
    replied
    i use zddp in the oil (30w non-detergent), the only "additive" i use.

    i also installed a "see-through" fuel filter in an unseen area - i'd worry more about old dirty/rusty fuel tanks being a problem...

    and if i didn't drive my car at least every 3 to 5 days year round, i'd throw some sta-bil in the tank.

    with that said, i do think ethanol is a problem for our older cars, and i try to fill up with pure gas when i'm on the other side of town where it can be purchased.

    Leave a comment:


  • MRHawkes
    replied
    Originally posted by PackardV8 View Post
    You could be correct. But then again, the oil companies spend millions on additive packages and advertising them. Seems if it were as simple as a bottle of whizbang juice, some company would step up and do it and get a lot of good publicity.

    Your snake oil, your money, your decision.

    jack vines
    I will also play the sceptic part here. Let me ask here on the Forum: How many of you have had the problems that were written about in the article by Ed Syrocki?

    I do find the topic interesting and I do want to keep the old cars around as long as possible. Earlier this season I did have problems with the Silver Hawk. Some were fuel related (Carb rebuild), some were not (Distributor rebuild). I have changed to a higher grade fuel this year before reading this article. I do believe that it may still be up to 10% ethanol. As for the additives I currently use: Lead additive in the fuel every 2 or 3 tanks, and ZZDP in the oil, because it came highly recommended by someone who had an engine go boom.

    What are your experiences with these types of additives and/or the Soy products, over the long haul? Anyone not using a darn thing, with no problems at all? Could it really be a money grab for another additive company.

    Leave a comment:


  • okc63avanti
    replied
    Don't blame the oil companies for the ethanol in gasoline .... its there because of EPA regulations (and very active lobbying efforts by Archer Daniels Midland) that forced ethanol on refineries. Prior to ethanol MTBE (Methyl tert-butyl ether) was used to raise octane and as an oxygenate to improve gasoline combustion to reduce air emissions. The problem with MTBE is that is highly miscible with both water and gasoline and as such was showing up in ground water when tested, so the EPA banned MTBE.

    Guess who caused the refineries to use MTBE in gasoline in the first place, you got it the EPA. The EPA has caused several different formulations for gasoline to be required for different states, climates, seasons and altitudes because it theoretically reduce volatile emissions by a few parts per million. This has caused the oil industry to spend 100's of billions in capital to custom blend all these boutique gasoline formulas to meet the regulations.

    And we all know who ultimately pays for it .... all of us at the gasoline pump !!!

    Leave a comment:


  • Corvanti
    replied
    from a post a few months ago:

    Where to find 100% Pure Gasoline with no ethanol

    Leave a comment:


  • JRoberts
    replied
    Thanks Bob, but the nearest place to buy this stuff is 130 miles away. Is there any other stuff that will do this? I just found that there is a little bitty garage about six miles from me that sells "High Test" with no ethanol (Regular is E10). This is perfect for the R1 engine in my Champ. Of course when I go very out of town I am out of luck.

    Leave a comment:


  • PackardV8
    replied
    Because oil companies couldn't care less about non fuel injected 50 year old cars
    You could be correct. But then again, the oil companies spend millions on additive packages and advertising them. Seems if it were as simple as a bottle of whizbang juice, some company would step up and do it and get a lot of good publicity.

    Your snake oil, your money, your decision.

    jack vines

    Leave a comment:


  • 57 Silver Hawk
    replied
    Bob, Thank you for info.. I just signed up the petition on No to E-15 fuel!

    Steven

    1957 Silver Hawk
    1967 Corvair coupe
    1969 Corvair coupe

    Leave a comment:


  • bezhawk
    replied
    Originally posted by PackardV8 View Post
    Anytime a magic additive comes along, I ask myself, "If it is that simple, proven and available, why haven't the major gasoline/oil companies heard about it and already put it the fuel or the oil?"

    jack vines
    Because oil companies couldn't care less about non fuel injected 50 year old cars

    Leave a comment:


  • JBOYLE
    replied
    Sta-Bil makes an Ethanol Treatment
    On their webite they say its...
    • "Perfect for use in cars, trucks and small engines!
    • Prevents corrosion
    • Helps remove water from Fuel
    • Cleans fuel injectors, carburetors and intake valves for better, overall performance
    • Recommended for use at every fill up"
    When they first started advertising this stuff, I emailed the company and asked if it would protect existing systems from the bad effects of ethanol.

    Their answer was...No. Their PR woman said nothing could do that.

    Leave a comment:


  • PackardV8
    replied
    Anytime a magic additive comes along, I ask myself, "If it is that simple, proven and available, why haven't the major gasoline/oil companies heard about it and already put it the fuel or the oil?"

    jack vines

    Leave a comment:


  • StudeRich
    replied
    Well if you can actually FIND a Station with E-85, just compare the price to the Regular Unleaded with 10%.

    I guesss each State is different, we do not have E-85 in the west, (the old E-85 cars that are still on the road not scrapped yet) run on Regular 10% since they are Flex-Fuel.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X