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    For some reason the Texas Transportation Museum has a 1965 Daytona. Aside from the fact the picture show multiple incorrect things about the car, this is what the caption to the pictures says:

    "283 (Chevy) V8. Wheel base 109. Weight 3,505 lbs. One of the last twenty Studebakers ever built. Three speed manual transmission with column shifter. Axle mounted overdrive. Oftentimes called "Studolets," these Studebakers were built in Canada after production moved from Illinois and did not have Studebaker engines. The company did not fail. It simply moved out of whole car production and into making components and systems for others. These days it is called "out sourcing.""


    Whew! Here's the site: http://www.txtransportationmuseum.org/Auto.htm
    "Madness...is the exception in individuals, but the rule in groups" - Nietzsche.

  • #2
    Man, where did they get this info? The sad thing is that someone will go to the web site and write an article on Studebakers using this info. I really want to see that axle mounted overdrive!

    The also say the the 38 Chevy has a L head six! I guess 38 Chevies used Studebaker flathead engines that came form Illinois!

    Leonard Shepherd
    http://leonardshepherd.com/

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    • #3
      Man, where did they get this info? The sad thing is that someone will go to the web site and write an article on Studebakers using this info. I really want to see that axle mounted overdrive!

      The also say the the 38 Chevy has a L head six! I guess 38 Chevies used Studebaker flathead engines that came form Illinois!

      Leonard Shepherd
      http://leonardshepherd.com/

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      • #4
        "...and the Studebaker manufacturing arm continues on as Delphi of Canada."

        Sheesh.


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        Clark in San Diego
        '63 F2/Lark Standard
        http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

        Clark in San Diego | '63 Standard (F2) "Barney" | http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

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        • #5
          "...and the Studebaker manufacturing arm continues on as Delphi of Canada."

          Sheesh.


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          Clark in San Diego
          '63 F2/Lark Standard
          http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

          Clark in San Diego | '63 Standard (F2) "Barney" | http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

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          • #6
            "Studeolets" indeed! Dammit, it's CHEVYBAKER!

            Miscreant adrift in
            the BerStuda Triangle


            1957 Transtar 1/2ton
            1960 Larkvertible V8
            1958 Provincial wagon
            1953 Commander coupe

            No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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            • #7
              "Studeolets" indeed! Dammit, it's CHEVYBAKER!

              Miscreant adrift in
              the BerStuda Triangle


              1957 Transtar 1/2ton
              1960 Larkvertible V8
              1958 Provincial wagon
              1953 Commander coupe

              No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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              • #8
                OK, correct me if I'm wrong, but is a '65 Daytona supposed to have the '64 emblems on the fenders and the Cruiser finish panel on the deck lid? I also thought all Daytonas had a vinyl roof in '65 and '66. Am I wrong?

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                Tom - Valrico, FL

                1964 Studebaker Daytona

                Tom - Bradenton, FL

                1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
                1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/OD

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                • #9
                  OK, correct me if I'm wrong, but is a '65 Daytona supposed to have the '64 emblems on the fenders and the Cruiser finish panel on the deck lid? I also thought all Daytonas had a vinyl roof in '65 and '66. Am I wrong?

                  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  Tom - Valrico, FL

                  1964 Studebaker Daytona

                  Tom - Bradenton, FL

                  1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
                  1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/OD

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                  • #10
                    Bucket seats were an option in 1966 Sports Sedans. It is not clear in my memory about 1965 models.

                    Gary L.
                    Wappinger, NY

                    1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)
                    Gary L.
                    Wappinger, NY

                    SDC member since 1968
                    Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                    • #11
                      Bucket seats were an option in 1966 Sports Sedans. It is not clear in my memory about 1965 models.

                      Gary L.
                      Wappinger, NY

                      1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)
                      Gary L.
                      Wappinger, NY

                      SDC member since 1968
                      Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                      • #12
                        Man are they mixed up, confused or what? That story looks like it was written by some 20 year old journalism major who got the info from some good ol boy Texans that were standin round the museum at the time!

                        A little research would go a long way to make an accurate story!

                        That car is someone's custom creation! I think it started life as a '65 Commander 2 door sedan and the FO decided to fluff it up some! It has a RF fender moulding from a '64 Daytona, the rest for a '65 Daytona sport sedan. The '64 Cruiser decklid moulding was added and you can tell it's a Commander from the duplicate "Studebaker" script on the lower rear panel. It has split bench seats not buckets and YES all Sport Sedans came with Vinyl Roof, bucket seats and Electronic ignition too! The Daytona script and "8" emblem are correct for both '64 & '65 Daytonas. Another give away is the lack of side window surround mouldings on this car, and only Commanders had the drip rail mouldings. It's a Commander!

                        Actually it would be a neat little car if you removed that ugly '64 Cruiser trim on the decklid and repainted all the side mouldings to match the '64 Daytona one! I just would not pass it off as a Daytona sports sedan, which it is NOT! [xx(]

                        StudeRich
                        Studebakers Northwest
                        Ferndale, WA
                        StudeRich
                        Second Generation Stude Driver,
                        Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                        • #13
                          Man are they mixed up, confused or what? That story looks like it was written by some 20 year old journalism major who got the info from some good ol boy Texans that were standin round the museum at the time!

                          A little research would go a long way to make an accurate story!

                          That car is someone's custom creation! I think it started life as a '65 Commander 2 door sedan and the FO decided to fluff it up some! It has a RF fender moulding from a '64 Daytona, the rest for a '65 Daytona sport sedan. The '64 Cruiser decklid moulding was added and you can tell it's a Commander from the duplicate "Studebaker" script on the lower rear panel. It has split bench seats not buckets and YES all Sport Sedans came with Vinyl Roof, bucket seats and Electronic ignition too! The Daytona script and "8" emblem are correct for both '64 & '65 Daytonas. Another give away is the lack of side window surround mouldings on this car, and only Commanders had the drip rail mouldings. It's a Commander!

                          Actually it would be a neat little car if you removed that ugly '64 Cruiser trim on the decklid and repainted all the side mouldings to match the '64 Daytona one! I just would not pass it off as a Daytona sports sedan, which it is NOT! [xx(]

                          StudeRich
                          Studebakers Northwest
                          Ferndale, WA
                          StudeRich
                          Second Generation Stude Driver,
                          Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                          • #14
                            quote: Three speed manual transmission with column shifter. Axle mounted overdrive. Oftentimes called "Studolets," these Studebakers were built in Canada after production moved from Illinois and did not have Studebaker engines. The company did not fail. It simply moved out of whole car production and into making components and systems for others. These days it is called "out sourcing.""
                            Phoo, where to begin with that/those statement(s). Never knew the Indiana business autos were built in Illinois, wonder if they came from Decatur where DSM came from. A little mixup with where our automobiles originated from, lol. He/She's gonna have to look a little closer into Studebaker's philosophy on automobile production, because he's throwing around what Studebaker did after December 1963 a little too loosely. And I dunno if what Studebaker did qualifies as outsourcing, because the outsourcing I know of involves having at least an office, headquarters, a spot where at least the paperwork or business is conducted, a place of business in the origin where the company is operating from. A fine example I can think of is Dell. Tech support may be in some far flung corner of the world, but is their corporate offices too? Also, my father's 4 speed on the floor in his Avanti with no overdrive and my Powershift must be one of a kind then if all they had was a three on the tree. I also think they never seen a RWD vehicle before as he implies an axle mounted overdrive(the engine is mounted horizontal to the frame, not transverse), go figure . I wont get into they're idea on the powerplants, I am up to my hips with my waders on this story already.



                            1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                            1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
                            [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
                            [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
                            [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
                            [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]
                            1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                            1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
                            1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
                            1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

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                            • #15
                              quote: Three speed manual transmission with column shifter. Axle mounted overdrive. Oftentimes called "Studolets," these Studebakers were built in Canada after production moved from Illinois and did not have Studebaker engines. The company did not fail. It simply moved out of whole car production and into making components and systems for others. These days it is called "out sourcing.""
                              Phoo, where to begin with that/those statement(s). Never knew the Indiana business autos were built in Illinois, wonder if they came from Decatur where DSM came from. A little mixup with where our automobiles originated from, lol. He/She's gonna have to look a little closer into Studebaker's philosophy on automobile production, because he's throwing around what Studebaker did after December 1963 a little too loosely. And I dunno if what Studebaker did qualifies as outsourcing, because the outsourcing I know of involves having at least an office, headquarters, a spot where at least the paperwork or business is conducted, a place of business in the origin where the company is operating from. A fine example I can think of is Dell. Tech support may be in some far flung corner of the world, but is their corporate offices too? Also, my father's 4 speed on the floor in his Avanti with no overdrive and my Powershift must be one of a kind then if all they had was a three on the tree. I also think they never seen a RWD vehicle before as he implies an axle mounted overdrive(the engine is mounted horizontal to the frame, not transverse), go figure . I wont get into they're idea on the powerplants, I am up to my hips with my waders on this story already.



                              1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                              1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
                              [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
                              [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
                              [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
                              [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]
                              1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                              1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
                              1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
                              1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

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