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    I just found out that they can if they want to add 15% ethanol to gasoline ,but it is not required by law, don't know how this going to affect the performance of our cars or what damage it will do to our fuel systems, there are only a few oil companies that still do add ethanol to their gasoline I know Maraton is one .
    Joseph Kastellec

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    Maraton Oil DOES NOT ADD ETHANOL TO THEIR GASOILNE MY MISTAKE
    Joseph Kastellec

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      Almost all the gasoline suppliers cut their fuel with ethanol.
      The percentage was almost always around 10%, but has recently creeped to 15%.
      More and more new vehicles are being built that can handle higher ethanol percentages.
      As the curve of newer vehicles makes the older vehicle percentage drop, then the ethanol percentage will grow even higher.
      There is no (or little) consideration shown to the collector vehicle market, because it is such a small percentage of vehicles on the roadways.
      Best thing a collector can do is prepare their individual vehicle to accept E-10, or E-15.
      Rebuild your fuel pump and carb with E-compliant rubber parts and gaskets (not a vintage rebuild kit).
      HTIH
      Jeff


      Originally posted by G T Joe View Post
      I just found out that they can if they want to add 15% ethanol to gasoline ,but it is not required by law, don't know how this going to affect the performance of our cars or what damage it will do to our fuel systems, there are only a few oil companies that still do add ethanol to their gasoline I know Maraton is one .
      HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

      Jeff


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      • #4
        E-15 wasn't voted into law .... It was one of those regulatory decisions that the EPA made under the clean air law act. See link ... http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/fuels/additive/e15/

        The request for additional E-15 was pushed by the ethanol producers and the current administration and EPA went along with their request. At first they said it was OK for use in vehicles newer than 2007, but now they have rolled that back to all light duty vehicles newer than 2001. It sounds as if the mood in congress is for cutting out the government tax credits for ethanol production so hopefully that will curb the increase in ethanol use. Under current rules gas station owners would have to have a seperate pump labeled E-15 with warnings to not use in cars older than 2001. That increases costs to the station owner as he probably doesn't have the extra underground storage tank to accomadate yet another grade of gasoline. Currently 90% of all gasoline sold in the US has ethanol blended in gasoline up to the 10% maximum.

        I'm thankful for living here in OK where our state has mandated ethanol labels on all pumps and a penalty to station owners if the state inspector finds ethanol in gasoline that is dispensed from a pump without the ethanol label. Many stations here in the OKC area have 100% gasoline or No ethanol on their marques, some are close to the average price and some charge up to about $0.10 a gallon more for the non-ethanol. I buy 100% gasoline for my 98 F-150 and all my riding mowers, and small engine equipment. Earlier this year I did an experiment with the F-150 and tried a name brand (Shell) gasoline with ethanol for about 10 tanks of gasoline in a row. I found that my average fuel efficiency dropped about 5% to 10% for my pickup which meant averaging 14.5 to 15 MPG versus the normal 16 MPG I get with 100% gasoline.
        Last edited by okc63avanti; 07-09-2011, 06:06 AM.
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        • #5
          ""Vehicles back to 2001""??? I have a 2006 and the manual states NOT to use more than 10% ethanol.
          64 GT Hawk (K7)
          1970 Avanti (R3)

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            Why can't they just keep this crap in Southern California where it is needed? I don't think Lizella, GA is getting smog or acid rain anytime soon (meaning in the next 500 years if growth continues at its current rate).
            Alex Nelsen, certified Studebaker nut.
            Driving a 1954 Champion Coupe powered by a Chrysler 383.
            Lizella, GA

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            • #7
              If or when Congress finally cuts the subsidy that it is paying the refineries to add ethanol to gasoline, then the refineries will likely quit adding ethanol. However, refineries will need to keep adding ethanol to gasoline if individual states mandate the use of ethanol. I believe that the use of ethanol only benefits corn farmers.
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              • #8
                We don't need ethanol in the gas in California either. I agree with Milaca, ehtanol production only benefits the corn farmers and Archer Daniels Midland. Bud

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bud View Post
                  We don't need ethanol in the gas in California either. I agree with Milaca, ehtanol production only benefits the corn farmers and Archer Daniels Midland. Bud
                  Don't forget the folks that come to Congress not millionaires, but who become millionaires while they are "serving the public." Corn Farmers and Archer Daniels Midland take care of those that take care of them.
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                  • #10
                    Don't forget the folks that come to Congress not millionaires, but who become millionaires while they are "serving the public." Corn Farmers and Archer Daniels Midland take care of those that take care of them.

                    Dave, THAT is SO RIGHT!!

                    Jim
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 52 Ragtop View Post
                      Dave, THAT is SO RIGHT!!

                      Jim
                      Actually, Jim, it is SO WRONG, but OH, SO TRUE!

                      This is not a political comment/issue/observation, because I'm not taking sides... the left/right/Republicans/Democrats/Conservatives/Liberals are all equally guilty of robbing us blind, while pretending to be looking out for "our" best interest.

                      They pretend that they differ in philosophy, but there is not $.25 difference between the lot of them, really.

                      They will argue that there is a difference, but there is not, really. Protect unions, protect your tax loopholes... tit for tat. Blah, blah, blah, blather, blather, blather, yada, yada, yada.

                      They are there to help themselves, not us. They profess different beliefs, hoping they might represent (influence) the majority, while it is obvious that either side is willing to shift to the left or right, if that is what it takes to win votes.

                      Both extremes scare me, and I am fearless!

                      What scares me more is the fact that neither extreme is actually dedicated to either extreme.

                      I probably wouldn't feel so strongly about this, if my pension benefits were anything like those that "serve" me enjoy.

                      Being "serviced" can be quite painful, eh?

                      I see that "they" are considering "adjusting" Social Security benefits... are they, at the same time, considering "adjusting" their own retirement benefits (downward)? If so, I haven't read about that, from EITHER SIDE OF THE ISLE!

                      Have you?

                      Speak up... Republican, Independent, or Democrat... left, right, middle of the road... have you heard any of your "representatives" propose any such thing as reducing their substantial/quite special retirement benefits???

                      Didn't think so.

                      Have you compared their retirement package to yours?

                      If they can't agree on anything else, they certainly seem to agree that they are something really quite special! Regardless of affiliation, they are getting rich, padding their bank accounts at our expense, and laughing at us, all the way to the bank.

                      When are the "rest of us" going to get mad enough to actually change things?

                      This is America. We could do that, if we thought we needed to.

                      All day, every day, I hear folks professing that they have had enough, and it's time for change.

                      I hear them professing, but I see no action.

                      I feel the need for action.

                      How 'bout you?

                      Yeah, I know... let's just bitch, and do nothing... it'll get better, sooner or later.

                      We are now broke beyond fixin'. The bottom of the slippery slope is approaching very quickly.

                      I hope I am wrong!

                      Taking bets I'm not.

                      Bail out Studebaker!!
                      Last edited by Studedude; 07-09-2011, 10:37 PM.
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                      • #12
                        My fellow taxpayers and I support the farmers that raise the corn. We also support the distilleries that make the ethanol. We also support the big oil companies. Then we have to pay more taxes on the fuel that we already paid for with our taxes.
                        Ain't it great???
                        I guess it is time to buy an Izzer and a horse to pull it to South Bend next year!

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