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  • 63 GT Hawk R1 4 Speed

    Hi guys, I just had a few questions to verify if I have a rare one?? The serial number is 63V-2036 Motor number is JT1028. Trying to find out if this is one of the 55 made with the performance package? It is a 4 speed floor shift with the Bendix front disc brakes. I just ordered the build sheet from the museum but any insight would be appreciated. Thanks Michael Dobler 516-351-6059

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    Yes, Michael; 1963 Hawk #63V2036 was indeed built as an R1/4-speed car, shipped with engine #JT1028 in it.

    It was Rose Mist in color and had power disc brakes and Twin Traction. It was built 'way too early to have been a "full package" R1 Super Hawk, although it could have been ordered with most of the package goodies. In this case, however, it was not, in that it did not have heavy-duty springs or shock absorbers.

    Still, a documented Rose Mist, JT-powered 4-speed Hawk is nothing to sneeze at; you do have a rare car. I hope it is in nice shape, or you'll undertake the work to make it so.

    Congratulations; 'good to hear that it survives. Bob Palma
    Last edited by BobPalma; 04-22-2011, 12:13 PM. Reason: spelling
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    • #3
      Cool find. Welcome to the forum.
      Dave Warren (Perry Mason by day, Perry Como by night)

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      • #4
        That is a nice car!


        It is one of 50 1963 R1 Hawks made with 4 speed transmission.

        Of the 50 R1 Hawks with 4 spd, only 10 were painted Rose Mist.


        A Rose Mist engine bay looks great with an R1 (as shown in this 63 Cruiser).




        In addition to disc brakes, 63V-2036 was also ordered with Twin Traction.

        There were 369 total 1963 GT Hawks built with R1 engine.

        If anyone is interested, we have a 63 Hawk with good running R1 engine, but needing full restoration, For Sale $4,600. Contact me if interested.

        Thanks,

        James Bell
        Bells Studebaker Diner & Museum
        Bellingham, WA.

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        • #5
          Thanks to everyone that has responded! It's great to find out this one is a little special. I have it listed on Ebay item # 270737387289 right now if anyone wants to put it in there collection! Thanks Michael

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          • #6
            Welcome to the forum! Nice to see another R series 63 Hawk surface! One day I hope to repaint my Hawk back to the rose mist it originally was. Pictures?? There was an article on R series Hawks back in the early 90's that had a breakdown of production. Rose mist is a rare color. At the time if my memory is correct there were 6 other R-2 Hawks known plus mine in that color. Congradulations!
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            • #7
              Here it is:

              http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...i%3D1&viewitem
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bellingham Studenut View Post
                A Rose Mist engine bay looks great with an R1 (as shown in this 63 Cruiser).

                Of course, that's YOUR car, James!

                Here's a couple of more photos I took of that nicely detailed engine compartment:





                Craig

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                • #9
                  Now, ....let me at that Avanti # 1 (or other special cars) and I'll show you what else I can do...

                  (S)

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                  • #10
                    This one is just right down the road from me. It's been far sale for awhile locally at $14995.00 Looks like a really nice vehicle from the pix.

                    Originally posted by Bob Andrews View Post
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                    • #11
                      Well, the firewall is still the rare Rose Mist. No shots of the inside of the trunk. I wonder if that was left original, too? A red interior wouldn't have been my choice with the Rose Mist, but I wonder how many were made with that combo in '63 to push this to an even more rare of an example? Beautiful interior color. Looks striking with the gold even though it's not the rare stock color.
                      Last edited by barnlark; 04-22-2011, 09:26 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Mine is not a Hawk nor an R1, but my 63 Daytona was originally Rose Mist with a red interior. I am always surprised that Rose Mist was as popular as it seems to be. Either it was popular or there are a lot of survivors that color (maybe they survived because no one wanted to drive around in that color? just kidding!)

                        --george

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by barnlark View Post
                          Looks striking with the gold even though it's not the rare stock color.
                          I was going to say that the outside looks like Rosemist on my computer, but after going back and looking, I'm not quite sure now.

                          I do like the Magnum 500 style wheels on the car though.......always wondered what they would look like on a GT.
                          Paul
                          Winston-Salem, NC
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                          • #14
                            I also have a 63 Hawk s/n 63V-2036, R1 eng. No. JT-1267 with 4-speed trans.. Its listed for sale in this months Turning Wheels. Not much response. I guess the times are not right.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by camden View Post
                              I also have a 63 Hawk s/n 63V-2036, R1 eng. No. JT-1267 with 4-speed trans.. Its listed for sale in this months Turning Wheels. Not much response. I guess the times are not right.
                              'Better check that Serial Number plate again, Camden, or we have two 1963 Hawks running around with the same Serial Number: 63V2036!

                              R1 engine #JT1267 was shipped in 1963 Hawk #63V6370, not 63V2036. It, too, was a 4-speed car; Champaign Gold with disc brakes. It did not have Twin Traction or heavy-duty springs or shocks, however. BP
                              We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

                              Ayn Rand:
                              "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

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