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  • Weren't all Packard Hawks Supercharged

    This one is a TX car could it have been S.C. Delete Add air conditioning.


    http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...d=120713233500
    John

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  • #2
    Never having seen a documented factory-air '58 Packard Hawk, I can't say they did or didn't exist. However, that AC kluge job doesn't look very factory to my eye. Note the routing of the top radiator hose Also, without the supercharger, a 7.5 C.R. 2-bbl 289" would be a stone dog. I doubt it would make 200 hp.

    jack vines
    PackardV8

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    • #3
      That is probably Greg Ciuba's extra car. He sold his beautiful black restored car last year for big $.. Pack Hawks & 57-8 Golden Hawks all had s/c and, unlike R2 cars, were available with a/c; w/ p/s pump on back of generator.
      Barry'd in Studes

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      • #4
        I don't think that's a correct trunk lid either.
        Poet...Mystic...Soldier of Fortune. As always...self-absorbed, adversarial, cocky and in general a malcontent.

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        • #5
          Barry's right. I remember seeing a '58 Golden Hawk with AC, and thinking that the PS pump on the generator was a neat way to relocate it.

          The Packard Hawk deck lid was nothing more than a '53 lid with that fake spare tire simulator (toilet seat).

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          • #6
            I believe the auction states there is no motor in the car and a motor will be supplied from a donor car. Am I wrong?

            --george

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            • #7
              If it's any credit, I have some prototype engineering photos I bought years ago that came from the Engineering Department. One of them I have shows a proposed 57 Packard setup with the supercharger and AC:



              The generator was moved to the driver's side, and the PS pump is right behind the generator. The air filter sits above or behind the compressor and is coupled to the supercharger which runs into a bonnet.
              1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
              1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
              1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
              1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

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              • #8
                That's probably the sedan prototype. Doesn't appear as if it would fit under a Hawk hood.

                jack vines
                PackardV8

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 289stude View Post
                  Weren't all Packard Hawks Supercharged
                  Maybe so~
                  but I know of one up here in the Pacific NorthWest that isn't anymore.

                  You see~ it lost it's blower when the R1 / Powershift was installed!!!!
                  StudeDave '57
                  US Navy (retired)

                  3rd Generation Stude owner/driver
                  SDC Member since 1985

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TX Rebel View Post
                    That is probably Greg Ciuba's extra car. He sold his beautiful black restored car last year for big $.. Pack Hawks & 57-8 Golden Hawks all had s/c and, unlike R2 cars, were available with a/c; w/ p/s pump on back of generator.
                    It is his car.. He used this one as a parts car for the one he sold.. I dont live but 45 miles away from him and am going to go and look at it.. I am going to do my best to buy it..

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                    • #11
                      Good luck- though you will play hell finding the missing parts, it will be a much easier to build body than my cheep Starliner! You should be able to snag it for $4-5K if the lunatics don't get into a bidding frenzy on it.
                      I have a friend here who is putting the final touches on a "factory" original a/c '58 Golden Hawk. I believe that the cars ordered w/ the a/c were shipped to the dealer before the a/c was installed.
                      Barry'd in Studes

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                      • #12
                        Ya txrebel ur right I'm going to stay away from this car. I have known about it for years now and had many chances to buy it but the lack of parts is kind of the deal breaker. I sent u a email on ur 53 by the way.

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