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  • Robson Collection '57 GH sells @ $46,200

    At auction yesterday (Saturday, November 13, 2010).

    You'd think they could have spelled Carlisle correctly!

    Not a perfect car, but still seems well-bought. Click below the photo for detailed pictures:

    http://www.rmauctions.com/CarDetails...2&Currency=USD
    Last edited by BobPalma; 11-14-2010, 05:22 PM.
    We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

    Ayn Rand:
    "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

    G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

  • #2
    They said the Hawk was the brain child of Brooks Stevens. ?
    Last edited by Gary1953; 11-14-2010, 05:48 PM.
    Gary Sanders
    Nixa, MO

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    • #3
      Any time you see a typo, look for what key is next to the mis-spelled letter. The L key is right next to K key.

      Originally posted by Gary1953 View Post
      They said the Hawk was the brain child of Brools Stevens. ?
      HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

      Jeff


      Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



      Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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      • #4
        The auction's description of a Golden Hawk is as quoted:
        "The Hawk was the brainchild of Brooks Stevens, a brilliant designer with a unique ability to transform older models into much more modern-looking machinery on a low budget. Based on the 1953 Starliner and its ensuing evolutionary versions, Stevens bolted on a different set of fenders on all four corners, altered the roofline, hood and deck lines, added a Mercedes-Benz style grille and fitted aluminum rocker covers to slim down the body. The fender crown moldings and tail lamps had a Lincoln look, and a distinctive touch was the plastic spear that protruded from the top of each of the front fender stainless moldings. The result was a fresh-looking modern coupe – a prestige 2+2 that would be offered in several models and powertrains."

        It appears that much of the description is really that of a Gran Turismo Hawk. Understandable though, as I have met many people that think all Studebaker Hawks are Golden Hawks.
        sigpic
        In the middle of MinneSTUDEa.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Milaca View Post
          It appears that much of the description is really that of a Gran Turismo Hawk. Understandable though, as I have met many people that think all Studebaker Hawks are Golden Hawks.
          Yeah; not a whole lot of brainpower exerted there....
          We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

          Ayn Rand:
          "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

          G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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          • #6
            Gosh, I feel like picking on this sale. Lets see, $46,200, and the car needs help freshening up the under-hood detail, some trim and emblems need help, and wait! how can it run without a battery?! Or a battery hold down for that matter...
            Alex Nelsen, certified Studebaker nut.
            Driving a 1954 Champion Coupe powered by a Chrysler 383.
            Lizella, GA

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            • #7
              Ok, I was too harsh. It has really nice body and interior work.
              Alex Nelsen, certified Studebaker nut.
              Driving a 1954 Champion Coupe powered by a Chrysler 383.
              Lizella, GA

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              • #8
                Was this car once at the 57 Heavon in Branson?
                Might explain the missing battery.
                Gary Sanders
                Nixa, MO

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                • #9
                  This is a really nice car. One would expect a more professional presentation from RM. It is a shame there's so much crappola in that sale brochure copy:

                  1. The aforementioned incorrect use of the cribbed the GT Hawk description. Really embarrassing.
                  2. "Of course, as a Golden Hawk variant, it benefits from a supercharger, increasing output to 275 brake horsepower." Those of us who prefer the '56 J variant will note of course not all Golden Hawks had superchargers.
                  3. First, they say "It benefited from a frame-off restoration." Then, later, they say, "this clean and largely unrestored example" Which is it?
                  4. "it will make an excellent driver for its next esteemed owner." It's not only bad grammar, it's incorrect - since it sold for 10% below their lowest estimate, it didn't go to an esteemed owner, just another CASO. ;>)

                  jack vines
                  PackardV8

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                  • #10
                    Wait till he brings it to a national meet and doesn't even get a 3rd. His car his money.
                    101st Airborne Div. 326 Engineers Ft Campbell Ky.

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                    • #11
                      This could easily become a glaring example of the value of why folks should FIRST JOIN THE SDC before spending a ton of cash at a hyped up auction event!

                      How about 30 or so dollars for a membership including monthly issues of Turning Wheels where you can get tons of correct information regarding our cars. Even the few errors that occasionally get by are corrected in short order.

                      Regardless, the deed is done and maybe we should welcome the new owner into our midst and try our best to break it to him gently.
                      John Clary
                      Greer, SC

                      SDC member since 1975

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PackardV8 View Post
                        This is a really nice car. One would expect a more professional presentation from RM. It is a shame there's so much crappola in that sale brochure copy:

                        jack vines
                        The crappola wasn't limited to the Studebaker Golden Hawk. Check out this description of the 1957 Ford sold at the same auction. They say those Fords had McCulloch VS57 superchargers! Wrong: It was a McCulloch, alright, but nowhere near the Studebaker-like variable-speed VS57:

                        http://www.rmauctions.com/CarDetails...0&Currency=USD

                        If you have time, wander around the other results of that auction. Wow; what a collection of gorgeous cars. BP
                        We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

                        Ayn Rand:
                        "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

                        G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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                        • #13
                          God, this just helped out the "book price"
                          64 Champ long bed V8
                          55/53 Studebaker President S/R
                          53 Hudson Super Wasp Coupe

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kdancy View Post
                            God, this just helped out the "book price"
                            You are more correct than you know. I give them info on all the private sales I know about, but they give more weight to the big auction houses. i.e. when a nice M series truck sold for 75K, they wanted to bump the book up 300% until they were convinced that was a fluke sale.
                            JDP Maryland

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