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    http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...g?t=1283504074
    Richard Quinn
    Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

  • #2
    Mr. Quinn,
    The depth and breadth of your Studeknowledge truly astounds me. I know it comes with countless years of research and personal dedication. A tip of my hat to you!
    ~Matt Connor
    ~Matt Connor
    '59 Lark 2-door

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    • #3
      Your new 41 is amazing, I love a good barn find story. I hope at some point you can post a sound bite of those horns for us.
      Neat as they are though, they don't really enhance the natural beauty the car already has.

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      • #4
        Thanks Richard
        What a great story.I never cease to be amazed at the unusual,bordering onto weird items that were available.
        A.C.Moisley

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        • #5
          I love that ad copy. Where on earth would those in the ad be mounted for your car?

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          • #6
            Amazing...
            What's old is new is old..... The truckers have embraced train horns
            (And too bad the 'new' is just loud, and not melodic at all)....
            Jeff

            HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

            Jeff


            Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



            Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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            • #7
              Note, according to the ad copy, every (not most or many, but every) man, woman, and child knows the tune, "Merrily We Roll Along."

              Amazing, the depth of knowledge the entire populace formerly possessed. <GGG>
              We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

              Ayn Rand:
              "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

              G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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              • #8
                John Clary
                Greer, SC

                SDC member since 1975

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                • #9
                  I don't know if "every man, woman and child" know "Merrily we Roll Along", but I do. Now via the power of suggestion, that tune is stuck in my head, running over and over and over... On a related note (pardon the pun), how, in the days before microchips, could you get a set of horns to play a tune like that? Was it set up like a music box with a disc or cylinder that rotated and had pins that opened valves?
                  John
                  1950 Champion
                  W-3 4 Dr. Sedan
                  Holdrege NE

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                  • #10
                    Shortly after WWII our grade school principal took us to Detroit to tour the Dodge plant. There were about 30 of us and a bunch of country kids even got to eat in an executive dining room. After the tour he drove his new Dodge sedan home. Enroute to the downtown area at one point in our experience we passed through the inner city. Detroit was on a roll with auto production and jobs were good. I noticed many big sedans with a big "V " emblem on the hood parked on the street in front of the apartment houses. Some had big air horns mounted on the hood. Being a car nut even then I asked the principal what kind of car they were. He didn't want too say he didn't know, so he said I think the cars are "Vikings". There weren't many "Vikings" or Cadillacs in the rural area where I lived until an Oldsmobile-Cadillac dealership opened.
                    "Growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional." author unknown

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                    • #11
                      If I recall the explanation given to me, it was a disc, an electric motor to rotate it and the thing worked along the line that a Player Piano did.

                      By the by didn't Merrily we roll along and Mary had a little lamb share the same melody?
                      Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
                      K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
                      Ron Smith
                      Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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                      • #12
                        With all this talk about horns, I had forgotten about the set of "heavy-duty trumpet horns" I installed on my truck probably over 30 years ago. Today, I drove the truck to the barber shop and tooted the horns at a neighbor down the road. I have them neatly mounted in front of the radiator behind the grille. The only thing musical about them is that they have the traditional "high and low" notes.

                        Richard, you say that the ones on the '41 are "air horns." What are they hooked up to for an air source?
                        Last edited by jclary; 09-03-2010, 06:55 PM.
                        John Clary
                        Greer, SC

                        SDC member since 1975

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                        • #13
                          I've got a set of General Lee horns going on my car...
                          Alex Nelsen, certified Studebaker nut.
                          Driving a 1954 Champion Coupe powered by a Chrysler 383.
                          Lizella, GA

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jclary View Post
                            With all this talk about horns, I had forgotten about the set of "heavy-duty trumpet horns" I installed on my truck probably over 30 years ago. Today, I drove the truck to the barber shop and tooted the horns at a neighbor down the road. I have them neatly mounted in front of the radiator behind the grille. The only thing musical about them is that they have the traditional "high and low" notes.

                            Richard, you say that the ones on the '41 are "air horns." What are they hooked up to for an air source?
                            There was an air tank mounted under the hood on the passengers side of the firewall.
                            Richard Quinn
                            Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

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                            • #15
                              I guess I should probably throw some wisdom in here. Usually the train horns mentioned are Leslie or Nathan brand. They can come in 1 chime(blat horns), 2 chimes(2 horns, can't place any use for these at the moment), 3 chimes(3 horns) or 5 chimes(5 horns). Of course the more horns the more musical the horns become. The common ones I know of are the single chimes, 3 chimes, and 5 chimes. The single would usually be seen on the switchers, the other two appear regularly on freight and passenger locomotives. Most usually appear on diesels since diesels also need the air for the brakes.
                              Speaking of which, prior to microprocessors, the horns operated off of air. Each one of the horns was a different length, the lower sound horns are the longest, the mid, are next longest, the highest are the shortest. All it takes is a release of air to work the diaphgram to push air through the trumpet, and you have your air powered musical melody. I should also mention for the locomotives, the air supply is easy. For the folks that want the large 5 chime rack in the back of the bed, you'll have to find a large enough air compressor to work the horn. If you don't get a large enough air source, you might get one or two shots at it before you have to wait for the air supply to refill.
                              I dunno if I'd say it was new, it's a necessity on the locomotives, so it just worked it's way over to the railfan and the general public. Some of them are not exactly melodious, I think in particular for freight locos the horns are made more for a general purpose and have a general sound. But as long as they are loud and they grab your attention, they are doing what they were designed to do. I will say that when I was at NIU, I could hear them from my dorm window. I knew the ones that were more than likely on a high mileage engine, because the horns had a busted diaphragm, so the horn would sound more like, shall I say, a bovine in heat, or only having two and a half horns working, than the typical freight locomotive horn.

                              You can still purchase train horns, even new ones. I think around here I'd have to go to the monthly Railroadiana show, or Ebay to get one(although that's low on my list of things to pick up at the moment, lol) This site deals in producing the Nathan 3 and 5 chime horns for instance:

                              http://www.k5la.com/
                              1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
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