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    I may finally be in a position to purchase a Studebaker. I'm not comfortable with the Ebay format and am searching other avenues. Is there any info on the web that outlines the proceedure for purchasing/shipping a vehicle sight unseen form a distance? How can I protect myself from getting ripped off?
    I suppose I could try to find a member of the Studebaker Drivers club to look at a vehicle but then what?
    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
    Stu

  • #2
    You would be safest buying from a known dealer like JDP who posts here quite a lot, but there many Studebaker guys willing to look a car over for you of it's in their area. It also depends on how much you want to spend. I know of a beautiful 1957 Silver Hawk with 6 cyl engine for sale in my area and it's very nice, but about $14K.

    What kind of Studebaker are you looking for?
    "Madness...is the exception in individuals, but the rule in groups" - Nietzsche.

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    • #3
      You would be safest buying from a known dealer like JDP who posts here quite a lot, but there many Studebaker guys willing to look a car over for you of it's in their area. It also depends on how much you want to spend. I know of a beautiful 1957 Silver Hawk with 6 cyl engine for sale in my area and it's very nice, but about $14K.

      What kind of Studebaker are you looking for?
      "Madness...is the exception in individuals, but the rule in groups" - Nietzsche.

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      • #4
        I don't know what to tell you. I buy a few dozen Studebakers a year off ebay and Craig's list. I get lots of pictures, some times speak to the owner on the phone to get me in my comfort zone, but that's it. I'd guess maybe 1 out of 20 are less then I expected, many more are better. Most of the classic car dealers make a living off cautious buyers that want the security of buying from a "dealer". I once bought a Studebaker GT from a private party on Craig's list for 6K, did some detailing and resold it on ebay for 9K to a dealer with a showroom. I later spoke to the new owner that bought the car for 2K off the 23K showroom list price.
        I get a lot of bargains by by taking a risk, but you may not be comfortable doing that. You can have a SDC member nearby check out a car, but I've seen even that backfire. If it's a nice car and priced fairly, I don't have time to do that since someone else will jump on the car. i.e. I just bought a 53 Starliner a few hours after it hit Craig's list and while a dozen lookers were waiting for more pictures or to look at the car.
        If you find a car you like, post info and pictures here (but not the actual ad) and we'll nit pick it, or someone nearby may look it over.

        64 Commander-64 Daytona
        64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
        63 Avanti R1
        63 Daytona convert-63
        63 Lark 2 door
        62 Lark 2 door
        60 Lark HT-60Hawk
        59 3E truck
        52 & 53 Starliner
        51 Commander

        JDP Maryland

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        • #5
          I don't know what to tell you. I buy a few dozen Studebakers a year off ebay and Craig's list. I get lots of pictures, some times speak to the owner on the phone to get me in my comfort zone, but that's it. I'd guess maybe 1 out of 20 are less then I expected, many more are better. Most of the classic car dealers make a living off cautious buyers that want the security of buying from a "dealer". I once bought a Studebaker GT from a private party on Craig's list for 6K, did some detailing and resold it on ebay for 9K to a dealer with a showroom. I later spoke to the new owner that bought the car for 2K off the 23K showroom list price.
          I get a lot of bargains by by taking a risk, but you may not be comfortable doing that. You can have a SDC member nearby check out a car, but I've seen even that backfire. If it's a nice car and priced fairly, I don't have time to do that since someone else will jump on the car. i.e. I just bought a 53 Starliner a few hours after it hit Craig's list and while a dozen lookers were waiting for more pictures or to look at the car.
          If you find a car you like, post info and pictures here (but not the actual ad) and we'll nit pick it, or someone nearby may look it over.

          64 Commander-64 Daytona
          64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
          63 Avanti R1
          63 Daytona convert-63
          63 Lark 2 door
          62 Lark 2 door
          60 Lark HT-60Hawk
          59 3E truck
          52 & 53 Starliner
          51 Commander

          JDP Maryland

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          • #6
            I found my Avanti from an old Hemmings online ad.
            Spoke with the seller in Indiana by phone & through email...with several photos.
            Then in a very lucky break, I contacted the state president of the Avanti Owners Association International and asked if he could recommend someone who could look at the car in South Bend.
            He said he'd be glad to do it since he was going there that weekend for the opening of the Studebaker museum.

            His subsequent recommendation ...and more photos...gave me the confidence to buy the car long distance. He even suggested a counter offer to the asking price...which the seller accepted.

            Bottom line:
            If the car is rare enough, you might [u]have</u> to buy long distance,
            or if it's cheap enough, you don't have much to lose.
            Otherwise, do your research.And SDC or other club members are willing to help.

            63 Avanti R1 2788
            1914 Stutz Bearcat
            (George Barris replica)

            Washington State
            63 Avanti R1 2788
            1914 Stutz Bearcat
            (George Barris replica)

            Washington State

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            • #7
              I found my Avanti from an old Hemmings online ad.
              Spoke with the seller in Indiana by phone & through email...with several photos.
              Then in a very lucky break, I contacted the state president of the Avanti Owners Association International and asked if he could recommend someone who could look at the car in South Bend.
              He said he'd be glad to do it since he was going there that weekend for the opening of the Studebaker museum.

              His subsequent recommendation ...and more photos...gave me the confidence to buy the car long distance. He even suggested a counter offer to the asking price...which the seller accepted.

              Bottom line:
              If the car is rare enough, you might [u]have</u> to buy long distance,
              or if it's cheap enough, you don't have much to lose.
              Otherwise, do your research.And SDC or other club members are willing to help.

              63 Avanti R1 2788
              1914 Stutz Bearcat
              (George Barris replica)

              Washington State
              63 Avanti R1 2788
              1914 Stutz Bearcat
              (George Barris replica)

              Washington State

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              • #8
                Determining the condition of the vehicle is a concern but how can I protect myself from sending someone a money order for $6000 and having them walk off with it?

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                • #9
                  Determining the condition of the vehicle is a concern but how can I protect myself from sending someone a money order for $6000 and having them walk off with it?

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                  • #10
                    I bought both my 78 Avanti II and 63 GT Hawk from existing SDC members who advertised these cars on a Web site. Flew out to Las Vegas from Ft. Lauderdale to see the Avanti in person ( and vacation for a few days on the strip) and test drive. No issues on any of these. Transportation back to home should be done thru an established carrier who advertises in Hemmings.[8D]

                    Jerry

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                    • #11
                      I bought both my 78 Avanti II and 63 GT Hawk from existing SDC members who advertised these cars on a Web site. Flew out to Las Vegas from Ft. Lauderdale to see the Avanti in person ( and vacation for a few days on the strip) and test drive. No issues on any of these. Transportation back to home should be done thru an established carrier who advertises in Hemmings.[8D]

                      Jerry

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                      • #12
                        e-bay has essentially an escrow department that holds your money until you have received AND accepted the vehicle, then forwards the money to the seller.

                        Las Vegas, NV
                        '51 Champion Business Coupe G899965 10G-Q4-1434

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                        • #13
                          e-bay has essentially an escrow department that holds your money until you have received AND accepted the vehicle, then forwards the money to the seller.

                          Las Vegas, NV
                          '51 Champion Business Coupe G899965 10G-Q4-1434

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                          • #14
                            quote:Originally posted by Studemobile

                            Determining the condition of the vehicle is a concern but how can I protect myself from sending someone a money order for $6000 and having them walk off with it?
                            You can use an escrow service (just like you do when you buy real estate). Most banks provide this service. The bank holds the title and the buyers funds until the car arrives at the buyer.


                            Dick Steinkamp
                            Bellingham, WA

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                            • #15
                              quote:Originally posted by Studemobile

                              Determining the condition of the vehicle is a concern but how can I protect myself from sending someone a money order for $6000 and having them walk off with it?
                              You can use an escrow service (just like you do when you buy real estate). Most banks provide this service. The bank holds the title and the buyers funds until the car arrives at the buyer.


                              Dick Steinkamp
                              Bellingham, WA

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