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    i have just found a 1978 avanti 2 in original conditionwith 65000 can anyone give me some more info on these cars? also i was wanting to know about what price range would this car fall in the car runs and drives but the gentleman says it needs the tanks cleaned. the interior is in great shape and the outside is not to bad could stand new paint? any help would be greatful thanks kevin
    Kevin Phillips
    Jacksonville,AR

    53 commander

  • #2
    quote:Originally posted by kpcoupe

    i have just found a 1978 avanti 2 in original conditionwith 65000 can anyone give me some more info on these cars? also i was wanting to know about what price range would this car fall in the car runs and drives but the gentleman says it needs the tanks cleaned. the interior is in great shape and the outside is not to bad could stand new paint? any help would be greatful thanks kevin
    By '78 the IIs had dropped back to the Chevrolet 350 (from the 400 '72-'76). They were probably the least interesting of the IIs, but the build quality was good and they made reliable drivers (they had mis-matched gauges (over sized clock) and the "cow catcher" front). I think that by then they had gone to modified sedan frames. The last of the original frames were rusty and weak and you could count on failure at the engine mounts. It would be a good idea to check them on a '78 just be be safe. As far as value goes, here is the NADA listing- http://www2.nadaguides.com/default.a...&z=25425&da=-1
    It sounds like it could be a decent car. If you like it and can get a good price, go for it.

    [img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
    '53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
    '64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
    '64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
    Museum R-4 engine
    Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
    '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

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    • #3
      quote:Originally posted by kpcoupe

      i have just found a 1978 avanti 2 in original conditionwith 65000 can anyone give me some more info on these cars? also i was wanting to know about what price range would this car fall in the car runs and drives but the gentleman says it needs the tanks cleaned. the interior is in great shape and the outside is not to bad could stand new paint? any help would be greatful thanks kevin
      By '78 the IIs had dropped back to the Chevrolet 350 (from the 400 '72-'76). They were probably the least interesting of the IIs, but the build quality was good and they made reliable drivers (they had mis-matched gauges (over sized clock) and the "cow catcher" front). I think that by then they had gone to modified sedan frames. The last of the original frames were rusty and weak and you could count on failure at the engine mounts. It would be a good idea to check them on a '78 just be be safe. As far as value goes, here is the NADA listing- http://www2.nadaguides.com/default.a...&z=25425&da=-1
      It sounds like it could be a decent car. If you like it and can get a good price, go for it.

      [img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
      '53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
      '64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
      '64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
      Museum R-4 engine
      Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
      '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

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      • #4
        In the late 70s, they were still more than half Studebaker, with the Stude frame and suspension, Dana 44, chrome bumpers, etc. The engine, of course, is a small-black Chevy, probably a 350. They later went to a 305. I assume the trans is a THM. Both the exterior color and interiors were made to order for the customer. The gas tank is behind the rear seat, just like on the Studes. Removing it for cleaning is not a very big deal. The challenge on these cars is finding replacements for the little things, like switches, because Avanti Motors bought them from a variety of vendors. Those built after 1973 were equipped with the same emissions and safety equipment as other cars. At this point, most of it can be removed or disabled. They suffer the same hog trough and frame/cross member rust problems as do the Stude Avantis.

        Avanti IIs are not worth as much as orginal Stude Avantis, though really nice copies have sold for the mid to high teens. Will leave it to others to comment on what yours might be worth.

        Skip Lackie
        Washington DC
        Skip Lackie

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        • #5
          In the late 70s, they were still more than half Studebaker, with the Stude frame and suspension, Dana 44, chrome bumpers, etc. The engine, of course, is a small-black Chevy, probably a 350. They later went to a 305. I assume the trans is a THM. Both the exterior color and interiors were made to order for the customer. The gas tank is behind the rear seat, just like on the Studes. Removing it for cleaning is not a very big deal. The challenge on these cars is finding replacements for the little things, like switches, because Avanti Motors bought them from a variety of vendors. Those built after 1973 were equipped with the same emissions and safety equipment as other cars. At this point, most of it can be removed or disabled. They suffer the same hog trough and frame/cross member rust problems as do the Stude Avantis.

          Avanti IIs are not worth as much as orginal Stude Avantis, though really nice copies have sold for the mid to high teens. Will leave it to others to comment on what yours might be worth.

          Skip Lackie
          Washington DC
          Skip Lackie

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          • #6
            here is a picture of the car
            Kevin Phillips
            Jacksonville,AR

            53 commander

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            • #7
              here is a picture of the car
              Kevin Phillips
              Jacksonville,AR

              53 commander

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              • #8
                quote:Originally posted by kpcoupe
                Not that it's a really big deal, but the headlights are later model. The '78s still used '64 Studebaker Avanti style (round element in a square bezel).


                [img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
                '53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
                '64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
                '64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
                Museum R-4 engine
                Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
                '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

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                • #9
                  quote:Originally posted by kpcoupe
                  Not that it's a really big deal, but the headlights are later model. The '78s still used '64 Studebaker Avanti style (round element in a square bezel).


                  [img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
                  '53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
                  '64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
                  '64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
                  Museum R-4 engine
                  Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
                  '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

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                  • #10
                    From what I can tell, only based on the photograph you posted, I would shoot for a price in the lower range that NADA gives:5000.00 to 6000.00. Just my 2 cents though. Richard Maxon

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                    • #11
                      From what I can tell, only based on the photograph you posted, I would shoot for a price in the lower range that NADA gives:5000.00 to 6000.00. Just my 2 cents though. Richard Maxon

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                      • #12
                        I'd drive it! How is the underside, that is really the determining factor in what it's worth, if it's solid underneath that is a big bonus.

                        nate

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                        • #13
                          I'd drive it! How is the underside, that is really the determining factor in what it's worth, if it's solid underneath that is a big bonus.

                          nate

                          --
                          55 Commander Starlight
                          http://members.cox.net/njnagel
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                          • #14
                            To some the fact that it has a GM engine is a MAJOR plus, so its just
                            up to you if you like the interior combinations and such. It should
                            have Recaro seats by 1978, and Avantis all had a single fuel tank, not
                            "tanks". Sometimes I wish I had started with an Avanti II instead of
                            an original Studebaker powered Avanti. Dont get me wrong, I like the
                            Stude engine, but installing the T-56 would be a breeze!

                            Looks like a good starting place from the picture, as mentioned check
                            out the frame for rust.

                            Tom

                            '63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires
                            '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                            Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
                            http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
                            I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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                            • #15
                              To some the fact that it has a GM engine is a MAJOR plus, so its just
                              up to you if you like the interior combinations and such. It should
                              have Recaro seats by 1978, and Avantis all had a single fuel tank, not
                              "tanks". Sometimes I wish I had started with an Avanti II instead of
                              an original Studebaker powered Avanti. Dont get me wrong, I like the
                              Stude engine, but installing the T-56 would be a breeze!

                              Looks like a good starting place from the picture, as mentioned check
                              out the frame for rust.

                              Tom

                              '63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires
                              '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                              Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
                              http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
                              I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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