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  • 58 Hardtop, what is it actually worth?

    There is a copper, or brown 58 Commander hardtop on ebay right now, it looks to be in good condition, I was wondering what everyone here feels that a car like that is actually worth. I don't want to use the high bid on ebay as a guide, I have found that high bids on ebay are often flukes, and you could sell the exact same thing twice and get totally differen't high bids. What I am looking for is a price that one like that should go for on the open market. And if you can't come up with an exact ammount, that's OK just looking for some guidlines and also anyone who has actually witnessed some prices on these in this condition. thanks

  • #2
    Hi
    While that seems to be a particularly nice example, the demand for the '58 is only within this club and at that not a well-regarded model year even in the general membership.
    I would opine that at $10K it is at the realistic limit, that the buyer better like the car alot and enjoy it, that it might be difficult to see his money investment returned in the future.
    But driving such a unique and rare model is the real return on investment, the dollars notwithstanding.
    Regards
    Steve

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    • #3
      About 50 bucks - max.[}]

      Miscreant at large.

      1957 Transtar 1/2ton
      1960 Larkvertible V8
      1958 Provincial wagon
      1953 Commander coupe
      1957 President 2-dr
      1955 President State
      1951 Champion Biz cpe
      1963 Daytona project FS
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      • #4
        If you go to www.nada.com click on consumer then, classic cars, you'll get an idea of what its approx. worth is. For this model it shows 4400 for a low end, 9300 for middle of the road & 14500 for a high end price. The copper one on Ebay is probably around the ballpark for the price. Its mostly restored so, thats half the battle won. If I had the room, I wouldn't mind putting a bid on it myself.

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        • #5
          I sold a nice 58 Commander HT on ebay for 13K last year, so 15K or so, seems high market right now.

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          • #6
            BTW, here's a 58 President HT that just sold on ebay.
            If anyone sold a car at this level on the open market,
            they are tossing money out the window IMHO.
            Of course I try to find cars on the open market
            myself. Now and then, you find the guy that
            paid 6K for his Studebaker 10 years ago, and
            just wants to break even.

            http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Stude...temZ4638488477

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            64 Daytona HT
            64 R2 4 speed Challenger
            63 R2 4 speed GT Black
            63 R2 4 speed GT White
            63 GT Hawk
            63 Avanti
            62 Daytona HT
            53 Coupe


            JDP Maryland

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            • #7
              Jdp, are you saying that a car at this level should be sold someplace like ebay to recoup max return? thanks

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              • #8
                I think that's exactly what he's sayin'!!! You're bound to get better (read 'higher') prices on eBay... [:0]
                I have an opinion on this topic, but I won't air it here in this forum. Sorry.


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                V/P San Diego County SDC
                San Diego, Ca


                '54 Commander 4dr
                '57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
                '57 Commander 2dr
                '57 Champion 2dr
                '58 Packard sedan
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                • #9
                  Yes, that what I'm saying, even ebay is not the best venue for the really exceptional car/truck. i.e. do you think Ed Ellis would have recieved 50K for his 4 wheel drive Studebaker truck in TW, or even ebay ? He choose the Barette Jackson auction to get that kind of money. If it was my choice, I think the 16,000 mile Avanti would have gone to Barette to get more money for the widow. BTW, I was accussed of driving down Avanti values on the Studebaker News group with that listing, and that's a first.

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                  64 Daytona HT
                  64 R2 4 speed Challenger
                  63 R2 4 speed GT Black
                  63 R2 4 speed GT White
                  63 GT Hawk
                  63 Avanti
                  62 Daytona HT
                  53 Coupe


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                  • #10
                    This car has been on ebay twice before! It did not meet reserve at I believe $16,500!! OkieBob

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                    • #11
                      This is now the third listing on e-bay for this car. If I recall, I saw it listed on the Collector Car website with a price of $17,500.

                      Guido

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                      • #12
                        Matthew,

                        While I was on a trip to Hawaii several weeks ago, my wife invested in a new computer. My picture files were not transferred, but I do have a copy at my office. It has a little over 5600 miles and is in good shape.

                        Gary

                        Guido

                        1946 M-16 fire truck
                        1949 2R16A grain truck
                        1949 2R17A fire truck
                        1955 E-38 grain truck
                        1957 3E-40 flatbed
                        1961 6E-28 grain truck
                        1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
                        1962 Champ pickup
                        1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
                        1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
                        1964 Cruiser
                        Join me in removing narcissists, trolls, self annoited "experts" and general idiots via the Ignore button.

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                        �Middle age is when your broad mind and narrow waist begin to change places.� E. Joseph Cossman

                        For every mile of road, there are 2 miles of ditch. ���

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                        • #13
                          Even though these 1958 hardtops are rarer than hen's teeth the old adage of "what was popular then will be popular now" still holds and popularity = big bucks. For a committed Studebaker collector like most of us are though, the 1958 hardtop like the Champion now on eBay represents a real up and coming car in SDC circles and I would think that for the price of a mid-line KIA, $15,000 for something this nice is not totally out of line.

                          As for eBay and Studebakers, right now it's the only game in town if you want maximum exposure. Studes do okay at Barrett-Jackson but again, that depends on the model AND if you can afford the steep commission and listing prices they charge. Turning Wheels is fine if you want to wait 2+ months to sell your car, and at that you are preaching strictly to the choir. I've said this before but in certain areas of the country certain styles of Studebakers are all but impossible to sell. Nobody in my local club, for example, is drooling over a four door, 6 cylinder 3-on-the-tree anything that Studebaker put out. eBay's large national and international exposure helps move cars like these and if you'll pardon me for saying it, helping drive the prices of Studebaker products up AND introducing them to the folks that will be buying them from us in our dotage!

                          If I had the money and storage I'd sure buy that 1958 Champion hardtop. Sure beats the heck out of a new KIA!

                          Studedude1961
                          --1963 Cruiser

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                          • #14
                            Hmmm... A Champion Hardtop WOULD be a rare one! All the info I've read indicates only Commander & President hardtops were built.[}]

                            Sorry Dude - couldn't resist![)]

                            OH - AND, of course, the PackardBaker hardtops. Musn't forget those!

                            Miscreant at large.

                            1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                            1960 Larkvertible V8
                            1958 Provincial wagon
                            1953 Commander coupe
                            1957 President 2-dr
                            1955 President State
                            1951 Champion Biz cpe
                            1963 Daytona project FS
                            No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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                            • #15
                              I would not bid that amount on a car without looking it over. That being said, I may buy it so that I can use the Headlight Bezels on the Packebaker, then put the car back on EBAY with my pitted old bezels, and make a tidy sum to boot.

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