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  • #16
    Sonny and I are gonna butt heads on this one. It's bad practice to run without the T-stat. Without that T-stat, the engine typically takes alot longer to get to operating temp. This theoretically causes undue wear on the moving parts and inhibits the optimum temp for proper combustion. If your engine don't warm up as quick as it should, you need a richer mixture to make it run until it DOES get warm - richer mixture = less lubrication to cylinder walls.[xx(]
    I've run engines without a T-stat in a pinch. But i don't let them go like that for long.

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    • #17
      Yes I agree. T-stat will b o/o tomorrow!
      Thanks for ya'lls comebacks!
      dan0

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      1941 M15...retirement project
      1953 2R11... daily ride
      2001 F-350 Super Duty Lariat to haul it all..
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      • #18
        quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

        Sonny and I are gonna butt heads on this one. It's bad practice to run without the T-stat. Without that T-stat, the engine typically takes alot longer to get to operating temp. This theoretically causes undue wear on the moving parts and inhibits the optimum temp for proper combustion. If your engine don't warm up as quick as it should, you need a richer mixture to make it run until it DOES get warm - richer mixture = less lubrication to cylinder walls.[xx(]
        I've run engines without a T-stat in a pinch. But i don't let them go like that for long.

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        Oh heck, no buttin' heads on this one Bob, I'd never run one very long without a t-stat, but it doesn't hurt anything for a while.

        Sonny
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        • #19
          Couple of questions...
          On your thermostat... Do you have the riser spacer in there?
          I had an engine that had no spacer and the thermostat just flopped around in there. Had to 'build' a spacer. Made it out of a chunk of radiator hose that slipped in there. Worked great, and was free.
          You really should run a t'stat. Sometimes, without a t'stat, water can go through the engine too fast and not exchange the BTU's the way they were designed. Then it get's too hot. Also, engine's don't like cold operating temps. If you had to run without one, I would suggest gutting the core out of the bad t'stat, but saving the plate and using it as a restrictor.....
          Just an opinion.
          Jeff[8D]





          quote:Originally posted by dan0


          pulled the stat. topped off. started. I HAVE A VERY GOOOOOOD WATER PUMP![^][]
          The lower hose warmed up immediately. Let her run @ idle. Run great, warm lower hose, I left the stat out. I would appear I have 2 bad ones! Now c'mon, 2 bad ones???[}] Recall, I tested the one I had replaced earlier 2day? Well that one was in while I drove home a scant 1.5 mile. So now all you skilled t-shooters, order a stat or run w-out? [B)]I know no stat is a BAD idea,
          dan0

          Stuff:
          1941 M15...retirement project
          1953 2R11... daily ride
          2001 F-350 Super Duty Lariat to haul it all..
          1989 Caprice Classic Brougham
          Sexy! 67' John Deere 112H
          DEEPNHOCK@worldnet.att.net
          '61 Hawk
          '37 Coupe Express
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          HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

          Jeff


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          • #20
            I believe that the thermostat depending on year/engine will either be for a Chevy or else a Chrysler V-8, so you can get a brand new one at your FLAPS easily.

            Not sure about the spacer, never replaced the 'stat on a Commander six. I know the Champion six had it though.

            nate

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            • #21
              quote:Originally posted by dan0


              pulled the stat. topped off. started. I HAVE A VERY GOOOOOOD WATER PUMP![^][]
              The lower hose warmed up immediately. Let her run @ idle. Run great, warm lower hose, I left the stat out. I would appear I have 2 bad ones! Now c'mon, 2 bad ones???[}] Recall, I tested the one I had replaced earlier 2day? Well that one was in while I drove home a scant 1.5 mile. So now all you skilled t-shooters, order a stat or run w-out? [B)]I know no stat is a BAD idea,
              dan0
              Damn, somehow I missed this post completely! So it WAS the t-stat! I think you said you have to order one and that's what I'd do Dan. From many years of my own experience, it will not hurt to drive it until the thermostat gets there. I would not drive it forever without a thermostat, it's there for a reason, to slow the water down in the system long enough for the radiator to cool the water better. Two bad t-stats? Hell yeah, I don't doubt it a bit. Glad that you found the problem.

              Sonny
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              • #22
                quote:Originally posted by N8N

                I believe that the thermostat depending on year/engine will either be for a Chevy or else a Chrysler V-8, so you can get a brand new one at your FLAPS easily.

                Not sure about the spacer, never replaced the 'stat on a Commander six. I know the Champion six had it though.

                nate

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                Nate most thermostat catalogs in some FLAPS still list Studebaker applications. I know the ones Autozoo uses do.

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                • #23
                  DanO, two bad thermostats sounds like a rare deal. You checked the operation of the one you were using also, correct? So, is it possible you put the thing in upside down? Just wondering.
                  Tim K.
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                  • #24
                    What a supportive bunch! Well for 2.99 + a gasket she is fixed. Stant # 3476 160 deg t-stat. OPS CK [][] Thanks for all of the support here, time for a brew!

                    Stuff:
                    1941 M15...retirement project
                    1953 2R11... daily ride
                    2001 F-350 Super Duty Lariat to haul it all..
                    1989 Caprice Classic Brougham
                    Sexy! 67' John Deere 112H

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                    • #25
                      Cool Deal! (well, at least not the lower hose now!) Two bad thermostats in a row. Weird, but not unheard of. Frankly, as more and more of this stuff is made "offshore", it's cheaper alright - until you have to change it a couple of times to get it right. Ah - for the good ol' days..........[V]
                      Lost in a flurry of foreign "jelly bean"-mobiles, my stylish old iron stands out like a sore thumb. Poor young kids in the cars around me have NO sense of pride in driving an American (all-american at that) vehicle. It's just "normal" to send their money overseas so they can scoot around in little anonymobiles made of formed foil.
                      I'd like to say I'm damned proud of you for really DRIVING that Stude truck of yours. We can't even dream of turning the tide, but we can damned sure keep the faith and keep the marque alive![^]

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                      • #26
                        Ya know the two that were bad were apparently old-timers...one is a weird shape poppet-style. I'll keep it for nostalgia Heck it's all brass maybe I'll polish it up a little.
                        Yup the ol boy sure gets some eyes! Thumbs up, the whole turn/grin thing. It is cool. The truck has a loyal following I tell ya, when we first showed here folks were really eyeing it up.
                        Can't wait to show em' what a cool ol' 41 M15 will look like in black cherry and pearl white with 17" ORIGINAL Daytons
                        Well be good ya'll
                        Man I like this forum!
                        dan0

                        Stuff:
                        1941 M15...retirement project
                        1953 2R11... daily ride
                        2001 F-350 Super Duty Lariat to haul it all..
                        1989 Caprice Classic Brougham
                        Sexy! 67' John Deere 112H

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