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    Picked this up this week. It's been tucked away in the same shop since the early seventies. Original heads and supercharger were used for a recent R1 Avanti upgrade. Not sure what I'm going to do with it, but it's a real one and turns freely. I can bring it to SB if anyone is interested. Not sure I want to invest in getting it complete again. For someone who may be thinking of cloning a R2 but who would rather desire an original R2 short block with which to start, here it is. It was mated to a four speed with 4:55 gears one warm April morning in South Bend, 1963. [8D]

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    WOW-WEE! Nice start for that wagon you know is going to find you someday

    Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
    Parish, central NY 13131

    GOD BLESS AMERICA
    Ephesians 6:10-17





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    • #3
      hi barnlark how much i,am looking for one don,t know what there worth.thanks again.ray wise

      rawise
      rawise

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      • #4
        Still thinking about what my reserve might be.

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        • #5
          Hard being a vendor right???? now you need to set a price...ha ha ha

          Candbstudebakers
          Castro Valley,
          California




          Candbstudebakers
          Castro Valley,
          California


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          • #6
            That's exactly what I need! I was going to try and locate a full-flow 289 shortblock to use. I have the R2 heads and supercharger setup. Where are you located?

            Joe
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            1962 Daytona
            1964 Cruiser
            And a few others

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            • #7
              That block is a replacement block with the serial number stamped on it. You can tell by the clover leaf stamped on it.

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              • #8
                I'm not trying to be contentious, but I'm not sure that's a clover leaf. I just checked my JTS block and its got a "keystone" stamped on it. It looks the same as the one shown in the pictures above. I was told the "keystone" should just mean its a heavy duty. Some Avanti engines have them, some do not. Another one of those Studebaker anomalies.

                sals54
                sals54

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                • #9
                  That's a "keystone" as I've heard it been called. My '63 259 that's in my Orange truck has the same thing stamped in it, along with the engine number.

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                  • #10
                    quote:Originally posted by StudeMichael

                    That block is a replacement block with the serial number stamped on it. You can tell by the clover leaf stamped on it.
                    That is not a clover leaf, it is a Keystone apparently with an Inspector's stamp number in the center, used on SOME factory line installed engines that were spot checked, NOT a replacement, they are blank, some with a clover leaf. This one is poorly stamped.

                    StudeRich
                    StudeRich
                    Second Generation Stude Driver,
                    Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                    • #11
                      If the mark on the block is not a clover leaf, what does one look like?

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                      • #12
                        quote:Originally posted by StudeMichael

                        If the mark on the block is not a clover leaf, what does one look like?
                        Here's my cloverleaf HD replacement engine in my '61 Police car. It shows the cloverleaf and the inspection stamp. you can almost make out the whole inspection stamp with what looks like the number 77 in it. I've usually just seen one edge of the inspection stamp like on Dave's block. If I understand correctly, the inspection stamp or "keystone" was used more often on HD or performance engines for quality checks.

                        On another subject, what's different inside the HD engine over a standard engine? I know it's suppose to have an aluminum timing gear and HD bearings, but is that it? Just curious.[8D]




                        Skinny
                        Watertown, SD
                        Skinny___'59 Lark VIII Regal____'60 Lark Marshal___

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for clearing that up, Scott. Good picture info for future reference. I have the history of this engine and in which Avanti it was originally installed from the factory.
                          By the way, it is now sold. Sorry to anyone else who may have been interested. It went to the first response. Good thing, first it's the supercharger, then the brakes, then suspension...whew.

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                          • #14
                            Here's another image of the keystone, laying on its side of course. For those who are unfamiliar, the keystone is that stone which is found at the top of a stone archway. Its not only decorative, but its the locking stone which keeps the arch strong. ( just a little aside, mind you )




                            sals54
                            sals54

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                            • #15
                              quote:Originally posted by Skinnys Garage

                              On another subject, what's different inside the HD engine over a standard engine? I know it's suppose to have an aluminum timing gear and HD bearings, but is that it? Just curious.[8D]
                              That's it pretty much, only the 3 intermediate main Bearings are Clevite 77 Tri-Metal, the rod bearings are also. If this was originally a H.D. Truck Engine with the Truck heads it MAY still have the Perfect Circle Roto-Caps, (valve rotators) and special valve springs. Nothing else is special.

                              In a Police car, probably not.

                              StudeRich
                              StudeRich
                              Second Generation Stude Driver,
                              Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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