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  • prescottstude
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    Just for fun I looked up the production order on my 57 Golden Hawk serial number 6101404 final assembly date 11/26/56 By serail number and final assembly date on the car in question it appears that 293 Golden Hawks were built in the 16 days between the tow Also on my car the date written is 11/15/56 with date to ship 11/20/56 They must have been busy because the date completed was 6 days late to ship..as an aside I was told years ago that employees could purchase the interior in question from surplus stock after golden hawk and packard hawk production was terminated after the 58 model year and that the price was indeed very reasonable..is it possible that the interior was added sometime later in the hawks life..?? Either way, the golden hawk is a great car ..Ive owned mine since 1975 and still enjoy the summer drives with ..happy holidays to all from winter in Wisconsin

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  • 8E45E
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    Originally posted by studegary View Post
    I do not know what you are replying to. My own 1957 Golden Hawk, not a 400, was built with power windows and power seat (singular). They were regular options on all 1957 Hawks.
    It all makes sense now!! He just wanted to do his homework and confirm his is truly one of the ten show cars before 'coming out of the garage' with it!

    http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...hawk-400-worth

    Craig

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  • Skip Lackie
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    Six year old thread.

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  • studegary
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    Originally posted by cabforward View Post
    they did come with power windows and power seats. I am not sure if it was just the 10 show cars
    I do not know what you are replying to. My own 1957 Golden Hawk, not a 400, was built with power windows and power seat (singular). They were regular options on all 1957 Hawks.

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  • cabforward
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    they did come with power windows and power seats. I am not sure if it was just the 10 show cars

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  • silverhawk
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    With a great thanks to Mr.Quinn, the "Ann Husvar" on the production order is officially cleared up! It is indeed a typo, it is supposed to say "Attn Husvar". I think this solidifies the theory even more honestly. Next step will to talk to Mr.Schiffer more, and show him pictures of the car. Since he remembers the car, that might very well be the confirming evidence.

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  • silverhawk
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    Originally posted by candbstudebakers View Post
    Dylan, I have a 57 GH here in the Bay area that needs to be restored, came with power seat and power windows, super charger is still with the car, engine has been changed to full flow and is locked up but I do have a 57 GH numbered block and working on getting a full engine if the owner will get off her duff and put a price on it, if you or any one is interested in it e-mail me and we can talk, I will be at the Cam AM meet in Sept. and could bring it north if sold....Bob
    I appreciate the offer Mr.Peterson, but I can't afford a G.H at the moment. I got to keep saving for college. And, I think I want to try and hold out for a chance at this one. Even if it is more work, it would be pretty sweet to have a one of one G.H; IF I get a chance at one.

    Thanks again for the offer!

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  • candbstudebakers
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    Dylan, I have a 57 GH here in the Bay area that needs to be restored, came with power seat and power windows, super charger is still with the car, engine has been changed to full flow and is locked up but I do have a 57 GH numbered block and working on getting a full engine if the owner will get off her duff and put a price on it, if you or any one is interested in it e-mail me and we can talk, I will be at the Cam AM meet in Sept. and could bring it north if sold....Bob

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  • silverhawk
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    Originally posted by oltrknut View Post
    Dylan, the hood on the car is a replacement , the person we got the cars from is the son of a collector, now deceased, he had very many studes. the hood from the 400 was used on another car , the hood on there now will not close because it is not correct. The research done several years ago does indicate it was a prototype, keep up the work and I hope you end up with the car.Allen
    Thanks for the info!

    From what I understood, the research ended at a dead end awhile back. That's what I was told anyways, who knows!

    Interesting! Thanks for telling me about the hood. I wonder what Bill remembers on it then, maybe it was changed out at the factory. And as for getting the car; I sure hope so!

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  • oltrknut
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    Dylan, the hood on the car is a replacement , the person we got the cars from is the son of a collector, now deceased, he had very many studes. the hood from the 400 was used on another car , the hood on there now will not close because it is not correct. The research done several years ago does indicate it was a prototype, keep up the work and I hope you end up with the car.Allen

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  • bezhawk
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    If they are the same as a Packard Hawk interior, then just the seating surfaces are leather. As well as the robe rails (straps on the backs of the seat backs). Also the tops of the arm rests ( just the tops).
    Everything else is vinyl.

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  • silverhawk
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    Well, I just got back from a awesome Studebaker chapter event, but that is a story on it's own.

    During it though, I met a former Studebaker employee, by the name of Bill. He was a tech writer in the Engineering department during the '50s, and he REMEMBERS THE CAR!!!!!

    He remembers Husvar, and he was indeed a interior engineer. (Says he was a good guy to!) He can't remember all the details of the car, but the ones I gave him, he remembered it; and it sounds like it is indeed the prototype Golden Hawk 400! Yahoo! And, if you see in the pictures I posted of the car, it doesn't have a '57 hood on it. He couldn't remember exactly what it had, but it wasn't the '57 G.H hood. So, it may be exactly how it left the factory, not counting condition!

    BTW, I'm am so going to make a list of questions and such to ask this guy, he is pretty cool!

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  • silverhawk
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    Sweet! Thanks for the info, I greatly appreciate it! Did you know this couple?

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  • Welcome
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    Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel View Post
    H. V. Husvar was the head of the trim engineering. I believe there was another Husvar in this department that being J. M. I know of no Ann Husvar though there may have been one.<<<

    Richard Quinn
    Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

    J. (Joseph) M. Husvar ... wife's name was Theresa. They lived a little more than a mile south of the Plant.

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  • 8E45E
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    Originally posted by studegary View Post
    Craig - Other than the raised arm rest, I don't see the difference in the seats pictured. Please elaborate.
    1. Number of pleats in the seating areas

    2. Top of front seatback more rounded on 'production' version.

    Craig

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