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  • What? No clock for $$$ '61 Hawk

    Ebay '61 Hawk- beautful, but not completely authentic. Already bid to $36,000+.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-...item2eac14e6f7



    Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia. '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Daytona convertible, '53 Commander Starliner, Museum R-4 engine, '62 Gravely Model L, '72 Gravely Model 430

    Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
    '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

  • #2
    I see it has an alternator rather than a generator. I wonder what crimped the left side muffler and what the wires going down the frame rail and wound around the axle go to?

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    • #3
      No oil filter?

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      • #4
        Nice looking Hawk, It is nice to see a Studebaker getting some respect and bringing bigger bucks, but I don't think the seller will make back 60.000 he claims to have spent on restoration, makes me feel that I may someday recoup the money I am putting into my 63 GT 4spd.

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        • #5
          quote:Originally posted by 53k

          Ebay '61 Hawk- beautful, but not completely authentic. Already bid to $36,000+.
          http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-...item2eac14e6f7



          Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia. '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Daytona convertible, '53 Commander Starliner, Museum R-4 engine, '62 Gravely Model L, '72 Gravely Model 430

          Wow, that's more money than my 399 point R2 Hawk brought, the market seems to be coming back,

          JDP Maryland
          Disclaimer:
          None of the discussions of my Studebakers are a invitation to buy nor a promotion to sell, I'm just sharing the hobby the way I practice it.
          JDP Maryland

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          • #6
            What's the red wire coiled around the rear axle, and running up the frame rail??

            Paul
            Winston-Salem, NC
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            Paul
            Winston-Salem, NC
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            • #7
              No oil filter because it is a full flow system, you can see the spin on down under in one of the pictures , the wire down the frame is for the electric fuel pump, and nice job of wiring???, also one would think he could have the right wheel cover on a car for this much money not 62 Lark ones, that kind of money needs to be a trailer queen and not so dirty under side.

              Candbstudebakrs
              Castro Valley,
              California




              Candbstudebakers
              Castro Valley,
              California


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              • #8
                Wiring to the rear is probably an electric fuel pump.

                The build order shows the car was originally Velvet Black and shipped with an oil-bath air cleaner, both no longer present.

                That said, there is no attempt to misrepresent it as an authentic restoration, since the build order is displayed with the paperwork. 'Nice car; gorgeous color, and looks very well done. [8D]BP
                We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

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                "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

                G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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                • #9
                  quote:Originally posted by candbstudebakers

                  No oil filter because it is a full flow system, you can see the spin on down under in one of the pictures , the wire down the frame is for the electric fuel pump, and nice job of wiring???, also one would think he could have the right wheel cover on a car for this much money not 62 Lark ones, that kind of money needs to be a trailer queen and not so dirty under side.

                  Candbstudebakrs
                  Castro Valley,
                  California




                  Good catch on the later full flow engine swap. Not a factor for a driver, but added to the other incorrect items should effect it's value as a show car. The judges don't check engine numbers, but they might see the full flow filter as you did. I wonder how this nice Silver Hawk will end up, it's still relatively cheap compared to the 61.

                  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_W0QQ...mZ220579249297

                  JDP Maryland
                  Disclaimer:
                  None of the discussions of my Studebakers are a invitation to buy nor a promotion to sell, I'm just sharing the hobby the way I practice it.
                  JDP Maryland

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                  • #10
                    That just doesn't look like a top restoration , which it should be for that kind of money .But it is a very nice car.



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                    • #11
                      Pretty car.
                      Later engine, but with early valve covers?
                      What else has been mixed up on it?
                      If it had a black interior, I'd be tempted...
                      Jeff[8D]


                      quote:Originally posted by candbstudebakers

                      No oil filter because it is a full flow system, you can see the spin on down under in one of the pictures , the wire down the frame is for the electric fuel pump, and nice job of wiring???, also one would think he could have the right wheel cover on a car for this much money not 62 Lark ones, that kind of money needs to be a trailer queen and not so dirty under side.
                      HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

                      Jeff


                      Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



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                      • #12
                        Don Wilson, Centralia, WA

                        40 Champion 4 door*
                        50 Champion 2 door*
                        53 Commander K Auto*
                        53 Commander K overdrive*
                        55 President Speedster
                        62 GT 4Speed*
                        63 Avanti R1*
                        64 Champ 1/2 ton

                        * Formerly owned

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                        • #13
                          quote:Originally posted by 2R5

                          That just doesn't look like a top restoration , which it should be for that kind of money .But it is a very nice car.



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                          1964 Daytona HT
                          1966 Daytona
                          Call me a skeptic, but I have some suspicions about the bidding since it's a private auction from a dealer with a very high reserve. If he has it in his showroom, he could use the bidding as a justification for his retail price. Again, just a suspicion, it's very possible that the car is setting a new market value for 61's, but I've seen nicer cars sell for less and can't explain the bidding.

                          JDP Maryland
                          Disclaimer:
                          None of the discussions of my Studebakers are a invitation to buy nor a promotion to sell, I'm just sharing the hobby the way I practice it.
                          JDP Maryland

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