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  • anyone order a new Avanti Body?

    I'll take 2![]

    Does anybody know if this is how they were delivered to S.B. or was this from S.B. to ???


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    John

    63' R1 Wagonaire

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    John

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  • #2
    I believe that the early Avanti bodies were assembled in Ohio and transported to Indiana. Shortly into production, Studebaker did their own body assembly in South Bend, IN.

    Gary L.
    Wappinger, NY

    SDC member since 1968
    Studebaker enthusiast much longer
    Gary L.
    Wappinger, NY

    SDC member since 1968
    Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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    • #3
      I read in an old motor trend or hot rod article that the initial Avanti bodies were manufactured by the same company that built corvette bodies, which caused delivery problems for Studebaker, since the company was putting more effort out for the volume customer, and not putting as much effort into the Studebaker bodies. This was an early article, so i don't know what changed, if anything later.

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      • #4
        Gotta wonder how much pressure Chevrolet put on that manufacturer to have "production problems" doesn't seem to be a shortage on 62-63 Vettes.

        John

        62' Deluxe R2 4SPD.

        63' R1 Wagonaire

        57' Transtar 304 NP540 4:09 TT Under Construction

        58' 3E6D Stock

        64' (Studebaker Built) Trailer Toter


        John

        62' Deluxe R2 4SPD.

        63' R1 Wagonaire

        57' Transtar 259 punched to 312 NP540 4:09 TT Under Construction

        58' 3E6D Stock 4X4

        64' (Studebaker Built) Trailer Toter

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        • #5
          This isn't to say that production of Corvette body panels didn't have priority, but all I've read is MFG made body panels for Corvettes, not complete bodies. The Corvette body required far fewer pieces than the Avanti as well. This was supposedly MFG's first experience at providing completed bodies, which was the major tie up in production. Combine that with Corvette body panel production and the resulting chaos seemed inevitable.





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          • #6
            Picture dosent look like anything familiar from South Bend.

            Chris Dresbach
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            • #7
              MFG is Ashtebula OH built the original Avanti bodies but the fit and finish was terrible causing many delays in delivery of the cars. As a means of solving the issues this created, production was moved to South Bend but it was too little to late even though all of the early issues were solved by the move.

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              • #8
                This is actually not the case Don:

                MFG is Ashtebula OH built the original Avanti bodies but the fit and finish was terrible causing many delays in delivery of the cars. As a means of solving the issues this created, production was moved to South Bend but it was too little to late even though all of the early issues were solved by the move.

                Studebaker had a contract with MFG to make the panels only. They were putting the bodies together initially for Studebaker but not contractually. They also won the business for the Corvette Stingray bodies. When things got going they could not handle the volume and told Studebaker they would continue to make the panels but would no longer assemble the body. So in July of 1963 only 30 Avanti were built because Studebaker had to figure out how to put Avanti bodies together in South Bend. The rest is history. As the Avanti production area was idle orders for the car were going unfullfilled and eventually into the garbage.



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                • #9
                  This could have been Ohio, Does South Bend have white street signs?, also a lot of things have changed since the 60s.

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                  • #10
                    What serial number did the body assembly start in South Bend vs. Ohio?

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                    • #11
                      You can loosely determine that by the chart I posted above John.

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                      • #12
                        quote:Originally posted by StudeMichael

                        This is actually not the case Don:

                        MFG is Ashtebula OH built the original Avanti bodies but the fit and finish was terrible causing many delays in delivery of the cars. As a means of solving the issues this created, production was moved to South Bend but it was too little to late even though all of the early issues were solved by the move.

                        Studebaker had a contract with MFG to make the panels only. They were putting the bodies together initially for Studebaker but not contractually. They also won the business for the Corvette Stingray bodies. When things got going they could not handle the volume and told Studebaker they would continue to make the panels but would no longer assemble the body. So in July of 1963 only 30 Avanti were built because Studebaker had to figure out how to put Avanti bodies together in South Bend. The rest is history. As the Avanti production area was idle orders for the car were going unfullfilled and eventually into the garbage.



                        Michael, the last Studebaker Avanti serial no. is 5643. I'm confused about the numbers after that shown for Dec. '63.

                        Bill Pressler
                        Kent, OH
                        '63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1 (sold new by Cordell Motors, Moorhead, MN)
                        '64 Daytona Hardtop (sold new by Carl E. Filer Co., Greenville, PA)


                        Bill Pressler
                        Kent, OH
                        (formerly Greenville, PA)
                        Currently owned: 1966 Cruiser, Timberline Turquoise, 26K miles
                        Formerly owned: 1963 Lark Daytona Skytop R1, Ermine White
                        1964 Daytona Hardtop, Strato Blue
                        1966 Daytona Sports Sedan, Niagara Blue Mist
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                        • #13
                          As I recall from a presentation by one of the plant engineers (I can't recall his name) at a national meet many years ago, MFG assembled the initial bodies without jigs and nothing fit. Studebaker personnel had to go to Ohio and show MFG how to use jigs in the assembly. I believe he stated that continuing problems with fit resulted in production assembly eventually being moved to South Bend. I'm suspicious that my Avanti R1236 body 404 was built on an Ohio body, due to the fit of many panels and really poor quality floor pan, most of which have now been corrected.

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                          • #14
                            quote:Originally posted by Bill Pressler

                            quote:Originally posted by StudeMichael

                            This is actually not the case Don:

                            MFG is Ashtebula OH built the original Avanti bodies but the fit and finish was terrible causing many delays in delivery of the cars. As a means of solving the issues this created, production was moved to South Bend but it was too little to late even though all of the early issues were solved by the move.

                            Studebaker had a contract with MFG to make the panels only. They were putting the bodies together initially for Studebaker but not contractually. They also won the business for the Corvette Stingray bodies. When things got going they could not handle the volume and told Studebaker they would continue to make the panels but would no longer assemble the body. So in July of 1963 only 30 Avanti were built because Studebaker had to figure out how to put Avanti bodies together in South Bend. The rest is history. As the Avanti production area was idle orders for the car were going unfullfilled and eventually into the garbage.



                            Michael, the last Studebaker Avanti serial no. is 5643. I'm confused about the numbers after that shown for Dec. '63.

                            Bill Pressler
                            Kent, OH
                            '63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1 (sold new by Cordell Motors, Moorhead, MN)
                            '64 Daytona Hardtop (sold new by Carl E. Filer Co., Greenville, PA)



                            I believe the discrepancy is due to several Avanti prototypes being serial numbered outside the normal range.




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                            • #15
                              quote:Orriginally posted by WCP

                              As I recall from a presentation by one of the plant engineers (I can't recall his name) at a national meet many years ago, MFG assembled the initial bodies without jigs and nothing fit. Studebaker personnel had to go to Ohio and show MFG how to use jigs in the assembly. I believe he stated that continuing problems with fit resulted in production assembly eventually being moved to South Bend. I'm suspicious that my Avanti R1236 body 404 was built on an Ohio body, due to the fit of many panels and really poor quality floor pan, most of which have now been corrected.
                              Was his name Otis Romine?

                              Paul
                              Winston-Salem, NC
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                              Winston-Salem, NC
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