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  • avantilover
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    You're probably right about the engine Dick, I knew it had a Chrysler V8.

    John Clements
    Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
    Lockleys South Australia

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  • avantilover
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    You're probably right about the engine Dick, I knew it had a Chrysler V8.

    John Clements
    Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
    Lockleys South Australia

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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE
    [blue]Dick, they did come with 440s
    Well, that makes sense. Bigger IS better [^] and I think the 440 is the same block as the 383. Thanks for the correction.




    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE
    [blue]Dick, they did come with 440s
    Well, that makes sense. Bigger IS better [^] and I think the 440 is the same block as the 383. Thanks for the correction.




    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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  • JBOYLE
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    quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


    I don't believe the Jensen Interceptor ever had a Hemi. I think they were all equipped with 383's.
    Dick, they did come with 440s...(Unfortunatly, I just recycled a recent Classic and Sports Car..my favorite car magazine from the U.K....that had a huge article in Jensens.)
    Still, I found this on Wikipedia:
    "The engine was a Chrysler V-8 initially of 6276 cc (383 c.i.) with optional manual (Mk I, only few built) or TorqueFlite automatic transmissions driving the rear wheels through a Powr-Lok differential in conventional Dana rear axle. The engine grew to 7212 cc (440 c.i.) in late 1971 with 4-bbl carburation. The SP (Six-Pack) model of 1971-73 offered 3x2-bbl carburation, only 232 built and has the distinction of being the most powerful car ever to have been made by Jensen."

    As I recall most had 440s. Certainly, most of the ones I saw in the U.K....and the few I've seen in tyhe U.S....did.

    I'm just glad I don't have to fill their tanks in the U.K. with $6 a gallon gas.
    Still, it's a great luxury European GT. I wouldn't mind having one...especially since I can't swing an Aston Martin and Jensens are relatively cheap. A # 3 car sold at the August Silver Reno auction for about $7,000. It needed paint, but seemed to be a good driver.

    63 Avanti R1 2788
    1914 Stutz Bearcat
    (George Barris replica)

    Washington State

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  • JBOYLE
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    quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


    I don't believe the Jensen Interceptor ever had a Hemi. I think they were all equipped with 383's.
    Dick, they did come with 440s...(Unfortunatly, I just recycled a recent Classic and Sports Car..my favorite car magazine from the U.K....that had a huge article in Jensens.)
    Still, I found this on Wikipedia:
    "The engine was a Chrysler V-8 initially of 6276 cc (383 c.i.) with optional manual (Mk I, only few built) or TorqueFlite automatic transmissions driving the rear wheels through a Powr-Lok differential in conventional Dana rear axle. The engine grew to 7212 cc (440 c.i.) in late 1971 with 4-bbl carburation. The SP (Six-Pack) model of 1971-73 offered 3x2-bbl carburation, only 232 built and has the distinction of being the most powerful car ever to have been made by Jensen."

    As I recall most had 440s. Certainly, most of the ones I saw in the U.K....and the few I've seen in tyhe U.S....did.

    I'm just glad I don't have to fill their tanks in the U.K. with $6 a gallon gas.
    Still, it's a great luxury European GT. I wouldn't mind having one...especially since I can't swing an Aston Martin and Jensens are relatively cheap. A # 3 car sold at the August Silver Reno auction for about $7,000. It needed paint, but seemed to be a good driver.

    63 Avanti R1 2788
    1914 Stutz Bearcat
    (George Barris replica)

    Washington State

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  • Scott
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    Here's a good picture of seats in a Mistral. Look familiar? I looked at pictures of Corvettes of the same period and their seats don't look like Avanti seats, so it isn't just that everyone had the same kinds of patterns. The Mistral's seats look a little more comfortable than the regular Avanti seats, but the similarity seems to be more than coincidence. I wonder how much a Mistral sold for new compared to an Avanti?

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  • Scott
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    Here's a good picture of seats in a Mistral. Look familiar? I looked at pictures of Corvettes of the same period and their seats don't look like Avanti seats, so it isn't just that everyone had the same kinds of patterns. The Mistral's seats look a little more comfortable than the regular Avanti seats, but the similarity seems to be more than coincidence. I wonder how much a Mistral sold for new compared to an Avanti?

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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    quote:Originally posted by Randy_G

    I would lost a bet I had with myself, I would have swore I have seen a jenson or two with 440's in them[?]
    It certainly could be. They were rather limited production cars and you could probably get most anything you wanted (for enough $$$ and within reason).


    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    quote:Originally posted by Randy_G

    I would lost a bet I had with myself, I would have swore I have seen a jenson or two with 440's in them[?]
    It certainly could be. They were rather limited production cars and you could probably get most anything you wanted (for enough $$$ and within reason).


    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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  • Randy_G
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    quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

    quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE
    Agreed, but the Jensen Interceptor came along much later.
    The Jensen Interceptor was made from '66-76. The Mistral from '63-'70.

    quote:Originally posted by avantilover
    It also resembles the Jensen Interceptor a British car with a Chrysler Hemi engine and Torqueflite Automatic Transmission.
    I don't believe the Jensen Interceptor ever had a Hemi. I think they were all equipped with 383's.


    IMHO, the Mistral is a beautiful car and it flatters the Avanti to compare it to one. OTOH, I've never been a big fan of the Interceptor styling [xx(]




    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA
    I would lost a bet I had with myself, I would have swore I have seen a jenson or two with 440's in them[?] One more thing I gotta go look up, Thanks Dick[]

    Randy_G
    www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com

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  • Randy_G
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    quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

    quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE
    Agreed, but the Jensen Interceptor came along much later.
    The Jensen Interceptor was made from '66-76. The Mistral from '63-'70.

    quote:Originally posted by avantilover
    It also resembles the Jensen Interceptor a British car with a Chrysler Hemi engine and Torqueflite Automatic Transmission.
    I don't believe the Jensen Interceptor ever had a Hemi. I think they were all equipped with 383's.


    IMHO, the Mistral is a beautiful car and it flatters the Avanti to compare it to one. OTOH, I've never been a big fan of the Interceptor styling [xx(]




    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA
    I would lost a bet I had with myself, I would have swore I have seen a jenson or two with 440's in them[?] One more thing I gotta go look up, Thanks Dick[]

    Randy_G
    www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com

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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE
    Agreed, but the Jensen Interceptor came along much later.
    The Jensen Interceptor was made from '66-76. The Mistral from '63-'70.

    quote:Originally posted by avantilover
    It also resembles the Jensen Interceptor a British car with a Chrysler Hemi engine and Torqueflite Automatic Transmission.
    I don't believe the Jensen Interceptor ever had a Hemi. I think they were all equipped with 383's.


    IMHO, the Mistral is a beautiful car and it flatters the Avanti to compare it to one. OTOH, I've never been a big fan of the Interceptor styling [xx(]




    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE
    Agreed, but the Jensen Interceptor came along much later.
    The Jensen Interceptor was made from '66-76. The Mistral from '63-'70.

    quote:Originally posted by avantilover
    It also resembles the Jensen Interceptor a British car with a Chrysler Hemi engine and Torqueflite Automatic Transmission.
    I don't believe the Jensen Interceptor ever had a Hemi. I think they were all equipped with 383's.


    IMHO, the Mistral is a beautiful car and it flatters the Avanti to compare it to one. OTOH, I've never been a big fan of the Interceptor styling [xx(]




    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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  • Scott
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    quote:Originally posted by rockne10

    We know the Loewy Studio was involved in the design of a number of European models before they were called upon to whip the Avanti together in a short period of time. Someone with the time to research it could probably identify which specific makes and models came from their drawing board.

    Brad Johnson
    Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
    33 Rockne 10
    51 commander Starlight
    53 Commander Starlight

    previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser
    As far as I know, Frua had nothing to do with Loewy's business.

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