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  • wcarroll@outrageous.net
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    Just to keep Dick's dream alive:

    http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/1378136090.html




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  • stuvw2mny
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    My drive to work car and take the family to the mountains car in the late 60s was a Willys Overland wagon with a Stude engine. When I first bought it, it had a 5 cylinder Stude engine in it. That was a 6 cylinder Champion with #6 exhaust valve burned out. With 5.38 axles, the first modification I made was to install a Stude V8 overdrive (using a kit from Rancho) on the back of the transfer case. This was a somewhat common Jeep modification that worked great. This brought the final drive ratio into the 3.5:1 range, so it could be driven at speed on the highway. The next step was a 1958 Hawk V8 (I think it was a 259) with the 58 radiator. The engine adapter was about 1" thick and the stock T90 fit. I think I used the stock Stude V8 clutch. The T90 transmission was just fine. As pointed out this was equivalent to the T86. Once in the back country I pulled the overdrive cable out and went where few men had gone before. The Stude V8 with 4WD 5.38 gears would almost climb a tree.

    It could easily be driven at 70mph in overdrive. That shocked more than a few other drivers. I towed a 17' boat or a camp trailer for many a mile. The only problem I had was I could never make it over the 10,000' mountain passes with something in tow without overheating. The extra couple of gallons of water to cool the radiator down about 2/3s of the way to the top was standard equipment. I never had a cooling problem on flat ground, just at lower speeds going up the mountain with something in tow. That overheating and a subsequent experience with a Chev V8 and its radiator convinced me that Stude Hawk radiators were never big enough to do the job.

    I later replaced the Stude V8 with a 327 Chevy, making sure to get one that didn't have the high rpm cam. I removed the
    Willys radiator frame and installed the Chevy radiator. I now had more power and ended the overheating problems, but now had a problem with the front driveshaft hitting the Chevy starter on the right side of the engine. Again, the Willys stock T90 transmission worked just fine. I finally gave up the car when I discovered VW Sciroccos and didn't need a family camping vehicle.

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  • 55coupe
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    I don't know what happen to it. About 2-3 mos ago there was a pickup of that style with a 259 init in Auburn Ca. A driver I think they were asking 3000 or so.

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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    quote:Originally posted by 53hardtop

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    Yea, but....there are plenty more out there! [^]

    Yes there are... like this one....
    http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/da...372382240.html

    It's about 2 hours from me. I also heard about someone headed to MN with parts. Is their trailer empty on the way back West?
    WOW! Almost a give-away. [^]



    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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  • 53hardtop
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    quote:
    Yea, but....there are plenty more out there! [^]

    Yes there are... like this one....
    http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/da...372382240.html

    It's about 2 hours from me. I also heard about someone headed to MN with parts. Is their trailer empty on the way back West?

    Rob in ND
    '53 Commander resto-mod (work in process)

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  • comatus
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    John North Willys (yeah, WILLIS) was president of the Toledo Club, the prestigious businessmen's social institution in Jeep's home town, for several terms -- longer than any other. I was at the club last night, and noticed that the bronze plaque with his name has been removed from the entry hallway. Have to wonder what's up with that. After hearing from the Jeep House guys how Renault execs plundered that museum in the AMC days, I'm guessing it's been melted down for FIAT blocks.

    For what it's worth, we had a member who used to drive a 1929 St. Regis Brougham to that club pretty regularly in the early 90's, creating quite a stir.

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  • lark55
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    Uh, actually my middle name is Willis. I am sure glad my mom didn't use the "Willys" pronunciation when I got into trouble.By the way my grandfather's family pronounced his name woolis.

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  • Lark Hunter
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    quote:Originally posted by studelark

    Go for it, Dick!!! Just a comment on the name of Willys. Some folks insist on saying 'Willies', when the correct pronunciation is 'Willis'. Either way, a Studebaker V8 should make it a goer. [8D]

    Frank Drumheller
    Louisa, VA
    60S-W6
    1948 M16-52 Boyer fire truck
    Believe it or not, I actually knew that. Problem is, if you pronounce Willys the correct way, most folks think you have a head cold... LH

    "I'm allergic to small block Chevys."

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  • Doug M
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    Dick I knew someone in the 70's that had one that was a Woody the panels on the outside were wood I belive it was maple. It also had the wood trim one the inside. He said it came from the factory that way.

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  • jjones
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    Food for thought--in the early 1960s there was a Willys panel wagon in the Phoenix area with a built Hudson Twin-H 6-banger in it. It certainly surprised a bunch of tri-five Chevys and came toooo close to beating my Buick powered Model A. Different and fast.


    Jeff Jones
    Tucson Arizona
    1947 M-5

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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    quote:Originally posted by studelark


    Awwwwwwwwwwwwww, shuckin's!!!

    Yea, but....there are plenty more out there! [^]

    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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  • studelark
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    quote:
    BTW, my emails and phone calls on the Stude powered Willys wagon go unanswered. I guess it is already sold.

    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA
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    Awwwwwwwwwwwwww, shuckin's!!!

    Frank Drumheller
    Louisa, VA

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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    quote:Originally posted by candbstudebakers

    What years did Brooks Stevens design?
    He did the Wagoneer...1963-1990




    BTW, my emails and phone calls on the Stude powered Willys wagon go unanswered. I guess it is already sold.



    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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  • candbstudebakers
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    What years did Brooks Stevens design? was it just the later years or was it the early ones? i know he had something to do with them he was one great person meet him twice.

    Bob Peterson / C & B Studebakers

    Castro Valley, CA
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  • Dick Steinkamp
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    quote:Originally posted by studelark
    Go for it, Dick!!!
    That's all I need...more encouragement.




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    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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