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  • Stude in a Willys Wagon

    This was a common swap back in the day...

    http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1359083784.html





    Which trany did the Willys use? Was the pilot shaft the same as Studebaker?

    Why do I want to do this one? [:0]





    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

  • #2
    You want it because its cool!

    Dylan Wills

    '61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon
    Dylan Wills
    Everett, Wa.


    1961 Lark 4 door wagon
    1961 Lark 4 door wagon #2 (Wife's car!)
    1955 VW Beetle (Went to the dark side)
    1914 Ford Model T

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    • #3
      Well... to paraphrase one of my favourite cartoon characters, 'Wow! Hav'in that thar Willys'd be more fun than a tornader in a trailer park!'

      Looks like non-stock though very usable seats. Over all the condition looks good. The[u]price excellent</u>!


      Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
      K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
      Ron Smith
      Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?
      Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
      K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
      Ron Smith
      Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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      • #4
        I've always wanted a Willys wagon. This doesn't help.

        Matthew Burnette
        Hazlehurst, GA

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        • #5
          My first vehicle was a 48 2wd wagon in high school. My dad had a 232 3spd o.d.swapped into it and he gave it to me when I started driving. I pulled the 232 and dropped in a 259 4 bbl. It had a 53 ford rearend with 4:10 gears. That thing would run pretty good.The brakes were a litle scary and it understeered pretty bad but I sure had a lot of fun with it.

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          • #6
            quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

            This was a common swap back in the day...

            http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1359083784.html





            Which trany did the Willys use? Was the pilot shaft the same as Studebaker?

            Why do I want to do this one? [:0]





            Dick Steinkamp
            Bellingham, WA

            It requires an adapter, the wagon/truck used a T90 with a long input shaft. I have one with a car bell housing somewhere in a barn.


            3E38
            4E2
            4E28
            5E13
            7E7
            8E7
            8E12
            8E28

            59 Lark
            etc

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            • #7
              Thanks, Charlie. Will that T90 hold Stude V8 power OK?



              Dick Steinkamp
              Bellingham, WA

              Dick Steinkamp
              Bellingham, WA

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              • #8
                I have always wanted to do this. I think this would be a fun conversion.

                Joe Roberts
                '61 R1 Champ
                '65 Cruiser
                Editor of "The Down Easterner"
                Eastern North Carolina Chapter
                Joe Roberts
                '61 R1 Champ
                '65 Cruiser
                Eastern North Carolina Chapter

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                • #9
                  When I was a kid living in Midland, Texas, that was the family car. That is the only time I remember being hot,riding in that thing. It was like an oven, even rolling down the road. Of course the fact that there were 5 of us kids riding in the back seat did not help. Went to the air show in Big Springs in 1954, and the engine gave out on the way back. Good times.

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                  • #10
                    Dick, I am sure that a T90 would handle a Stude V8 for any kind of normal driving. They used T90s in Studebaker pickups with V8 power, IIRC. IN any case, the T90 gears are the same size as T86 gears, and they certainly used T86 with V8 power.

                    I may have the bellhousing you need to accomplish the swap.

                    Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
                    Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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                    • #11
                      The only problem with a T-90 in the Willys was that it had an issue with the syncro in second gear. When driving it would just pop out. I had an old Jeep with a Ford 289 and the T-90 adapted to it and had no problem with it holding together, just the syncro started to go out. I also had a Willys pickup I built with a Chevy 305 and the T-90 that the trans held up well in.

                      PROUDLY MADE IN AMERICA

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                      • #12
                        Many years ago I had a really nice 2WD example of one of these. Seems as tho I recall it having some sort of transplant engine in it that didn't run. Before I ever got around to doing something with it, one of the guys I worked with talked me out of it.
                        I like the looks of these. And it's also intriguing that my mom worked in the Willys factory during WWII.[^]


                        1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                        1963 Cruiser
                        1960 Larkvertible V8
                        1958 Provincial wagon
                        1953 Commander coupe
                        1957 President two door

                        No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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                        • #13
                          Hmm... Looks to be a lotta work, but a lotta fun to be had when finished. I usually shy away from anything that is not stock, but I like this one for some (not so) odd reason. So, feel free to give me the "Willys" (Sorry. That was really stupid, but I couldn't resist). LH

                          "I'm allergic to small block Chevys."

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                          • #14
                            quote:Originally posted by gordr

                            Dick, I am sure that a T90 would handle a Stude V8 for any kind of normal driving. They used T90s in Studebaker pickups with V8 power, IIRC. IN any case, the T90 gears are the same size as T86 gears, and they certainly used T86 with V8 power.

                            I may have the bellhousing you need to accomplish the swap.
                            Thanks, Gord.

                            The swap is supposedly already done and the Willys runs and drives...so it must have the proper bell and adapter. We'll see.



                            Dick Steinkamp
                            Bellingham, WA

                            Dick Steinkamp
                            Bellingham, WA

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                            • #15
                              This would be a sterling opportunity to 'over-restore.' The finish on these was nothing great to start with. That plywood door panel is already an improvement.

                              [img=left]http://www.alink.com/personal/tbredehoft/Avatar1.jpg[/img=left]
                              Tom Bredehoft
                              '53 Commander Coupe (since 1959)
                              '55 President (6H Y6) State Sedan
                              ....On the road, again....
                              '05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
                              All Indiana built cars

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