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  • Swifster
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    quote:Originally posted by JWW


    Bill,

    It was not my intent to embarass you or Dave. I merely wanted to point out that there are risks associated with driving before receiving one's Learner's Permit or what ever it is called in Ohio. I've personally done some things that I look back on and ask myself "What was I thinking?"

    When I bought my convertible in 1980, it had been sitting in a barn for about seven years. The man who owned it and his son-in-law brought it to his house on a Saturday morning. They had poured 5 gallons of gasoline in it, pumped up the tires, and drove it a short distance. Because I got there very early they had just begun to wash it. It was black as coal, the interior was covered with mold, the rear window was opaque, it had the usual front fender rust, the exhaust system was intact but the muffler was kinda loud, and the gas tank was leaking a steady drip, drip, drip.

    Despite all that, the next day I slapped a license plate (from my daily driver) on it, and drove it home from the other side of Pittsburgh, probably about 40 miles. I drove into the city, across the bridge, through the tunnels, and out the Parkway towards the airport with my Dad following behind me. As we exited from the Parkway onto Rt. 22/30, there was a State Police car coming up the ramp just ahead of me about to merge into my lane. There was nowhere for me to hide, so I kept on driving. He gave me a long look but continued in his lane which took him onto another exit ramp to access the road leading to the barracks. Thought I was done for.

    Looking back today that was a really dumb thing to do. (Of course I was younger and stupider back then.) The car had sat for all that time. I had no idea about the condition of the brakes, radiator, belts, hoses, etc., etc. But it got me home never missing a beat.

    Like they say, "Don't try this at home."
    Being far less funded than now (and that's saying a lot!), when I first bought my '71 Fury GT, it was 50 miles from home. A friend of mine had a '76 Dodge Aspen wagon, and he towed me the whole way with a tow strap. The was up I-75 and thru Detroit with only the ability to stand on the brakes hoping they wouldn't fail and without the vacuum assist. We made it in one piece without any real drama, but looking back you wonder what you were thinking.

    The guy who did the towing was bringing home a rusty Porsche 914. This time I was doing the towing. His brakes froze up and started a brake fire. After checking things out, we just shrugged and continued on with a large smoke screen trailing behind us...

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    Tom - Mulberry, FL

    1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

    1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)

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  • John and Tracy Smith
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    Dave, great video! She did a lot better than John did on his first drive...he ran the car into his parents's house! (P.S. He was wearing tennis shoes.) Thanks for sharing! We really enjoyed it!

    John and Tracy Smith
    Queen Creek Arizona
    http://1955studebaker.blogspot.com/
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  • JWW
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    Bill,

    It was not my intent to embarass you or Dave. I merely wanted to point out that there are risks associated with driving before receiving one's Learner's Permit or what ever it is called in Ohio. I've personally done some things that I look back on and ask myself "What was I thinking?"

    When I bought my convertible in 1980, it had been sitting in a barn for about seven years. The man who owned it and his son-in-law brought it to his house on a Saturday morning. They had poured 5 gallons of gasoline in it, pumped up the tires, and drove it a short distance. Because I got there very early they had just begun to wash it. It was black as coal, the interior was covered with mold, the rear window was opaque, it had the usual front fender rust, the exhaust system was intact but the muffler was kinda loud, and the gas tank was leaking a steady drip, drip, drip.

    Despite all that, the next day I slapped a license plate (from my daily driver) on it, and drove it home from the other side of Pittsburgh, probably about 40 miles. I drove into the city, across the bridge, through the tunnels, and out the Parkway towards the airport with my Dad following behind me. As we exited from the Parkway onto Rt. 22/30, there was a State Police car coming up the ramp just ahead of me about to merge into my lane. There was nowhere for me to hide, so I kept on driving. He gave me a long look but continued in his lane which took him onto another exit ramp to access the road leading to the barracks. Thought I was done for.

    Looking back today that was a really dumb thing to do. (Of course I was younger and stupider back then.) The car had sat for all that time. I had no idea about the condition of the brakes, radiator, belts, hoses, etc., etc. But it got me home never missing a beat.

    Like they say, "Don't try this at home."
    JWW

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  • Swifster
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    Dave, take her out on the interstate with Sammy Hagar's "I Can't Drive 55!".

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    Tom - Mulberry, FL

    1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

    1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)

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  • BobPalma
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    quote:Originally posted by bams50

    Never mind the details, Dave. I really enjoyed that video because it brings back memories of my first legal drives. Of course, I had a lot of experience by the time I got my permit. I used to go to the local tavern and hang with Dad for hours because I knew if he got a load on he'd let me drive the 4 miles home- not on his lap or next to him just steering, but right in the driver's seat in full control! I vividly remember that feeling, 11 or 12 years old, barely able to see over the dashboard of that big blue Lincoln, and feeling like the King of the World[^] That's why I love teaching kids, and I'm pretty darn good at it too

    Just heard that Springsteen lyric in my head:

    Sit on his lap
    In that big old Buick
    Steer as we drove through town...



    Robert (Bob) Andrews
    Or how about Alan Jackson's song, simply entitled "Drive"? A great song with a simple but important message.

    In fact, Dave, if you redo the video, put Drive on a portable CD player and have it playing it the background! BP

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  • Bill Pressler
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    JWW, all good points! I feel sort-of embarrassed now...like I would be if my own HS driver's ed teacher were weighing in here!

    Again, all good points though!

    Bill Pressler
    Kent, OH
    '63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1
    '64 Daytona Hardtop

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  • showbizkid
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    I think we've all become a nation of fussbudgets and insurance-cowed scaredy-cats. Everyone I know grew up in big all-steel cars with no dash pads or seat belts, and we all made it through alive. Let's not let the little nit-picky things and the no-no nannies steal the joy out of life, shall we?


    [img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

    Clark in San Diego
    '63 F2/Lark Standard
    http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
    www.studebakersandiego.com

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  • barnlark
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    I know, like kids sitting on a lap is legal. You'd end up on Nancy Grace for that! [B)]

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  • bams50
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    Never mind the details, Dave. I really enjoyed that video because it brings back memories of my first legal drives. Of course, I had a lot of experience by the time I got my permit. I used to go to the local tavern and hang with Dad for hours because I knew if he got a load on he'd let me drive the 4 miles home- not on his lap or next to him just steering, but right in the driver's seat in full control! I vividly remember that feeling, 11 or 12 years old, barely able to see over the dashboard of that big blue Lincoln, and feeling like the King of the World[^] That's why I love teaching kids, and I'm pretty darn good at it too

    Of course, that memory is what also kept me from caring about footwear, or Dad's seating position

    Just heard that Springsteen lyric in my head:

    Sit on his lap
    In that big old Buick
    Steer as we drove through town...



    Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
    Parish, central NY 13131






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  • barnlark
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    I noticed those too after I saw the video. Oh well. We haven't been exactly legal learning yet, but we live in the country and while it wasn't correct, we promise to do better. By the way, this was just meant to be a fun first temp license moment, and it was, not a how-to driving lesson. I always sit in the front seat, even though not all our cars allow access to the brakes from that position, either.
    I checked the laws about footwear and there aren't any laws against driving barefoot in almost all states, let alone sandals. If high heels or anything on one's foot causes an accident, then maybe you'd get a ticket, but not just because people frown on them. Is it better to have sneakers on? Yes, maybe. Wet sneakers are just as dangerous.
    Thanks for the critiques, though. I've only posted one video and learned a lesson.

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  • 14x7
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    I'm glad someone spoke up about the open toe sandels. No-No

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  • Swifster
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    "HIT THE BRAKE! HIT THE BRAKE!"

    Great video. Reminds me of my sister learning to drive . It also reminded me of driving my dad's '80 Chevy Citation. I think it was the only V6 made without power steering .

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    Tom - Mulberry, FL

    1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

    1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)

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  • showbizkid
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    Great video Dave! I'm not sure how my heart will hold up when it's my son's turn at the wheel!

    ...brought back memories of my first try at "armstrong" steering, though!


    [img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

    Clark in San Diego
    '63 F2/Lark Standard
    http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
    www.studebakersandiego.com

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  • JWW
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    Hey Dave,

    Really enjoyed your video. It brought back a lot of memories. Just a couple of observations from an old retired HS Driver's Ed teacher who taught kids to drive for twenty some years. First, please ask your daughter to NOT wear flip flops when she drives (especially when she goes for her driver's test.) A closed toe shoe is much safer, and will make a better impression on her driving examiner. [^]

    Making turns will get better with practice.

    Now a word to Dad...it seems that the licensed driver was missing from the front seat. I know, I know -- picky. You were driving in your neighborhood at a relatively slow speed. BUT, I don't think that there is an exception for that in the Ohio Motor Vehicle Code. You would not have been much help from the back seat in the event of an emergency. Didn't happen, but she was interacting with other moving and parked cars. One of those cars could have pulled out in front of her, made a turn too wide, or a door could have been opened on a parked car, or a pedestrian stepped between.... you get the picture. Don't risk conflict with law enforcement at this stage of the game. (And it is on You Tube for all the world to see.)

    Note to Bill Pressler re your above post: Same thing. Church parking lots and school driveways are public thorofares and not a good idea for unlicensed drivers. This also raises insurance issues. The closer it gets to one's birthday, the harder it is to wait. Lots of folks do it, but if something happens...?

    I first "drove" sitting on my dad's lap in a '49 Hudson, but that was in our driveway. My dad would stop at the end of the driveway, and I would crawl up on his lap and steer for the 150 feet or so to the house. Also my grandparents lived in the country and I later drove on their property before I was 16. I passed the PA driver's test just over two weeks after my birthday in my HS's driver ed car ('56 DeSoto 4 dr hardtop.) The examiner commented that he thought I had started "practicing" a little early.

    I do recall once being in FL with my parents and younger brother before I was 16. We left my Uncle's house sometime after midnight, and my Dad handed me the keys to drive us back to my grandparents' house. ('55 Commander 4 dr, stick) This was a distance of about 2 miles or so, within a development, but did not involve crossing any major intersections. So yes I'm guilty too.[:I]

    Guys, I wish both your daughters many, many years of safe driving, and I hope some of those miles are behind the wheel of a Stude.
    JWW

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  • raprice
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    Thanks for the ride. Your daughter seems to be a good and cautious driver. I guess you'll just have to find one for her. The biggest mistake you made was having her drive a convertible. That's what she'll want now. Come to think of it, I'd like one too.
    Rog

    '59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop
    Smithtown,NY

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