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    There's a couple of original assembly line grease pencil markings on the firewall of my 63 Lark. One is an "A" and the other (right in the center just above the trans tunnel) is a "3". Any idea what they mean? I suspect the "A" is for Automatic but that's just a guess. As for the "3"?...
    Thanks
    Todd



    63 Lark 2dr Sedan
    64 Daytona 4dr Sedan

  • #2
    Assembly line inspection marks; probably have nothing to do with how the car was equipped. My 53 has one above the cowl seam that looks like a P and apparently was applied before the final paint, and another below the seam. It is a 5, applied with a yellow paint marker after the final paint.

    Brad Johnson
    Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
    33 Rockne 10
    51 commander Starlight
    53 Commander Starlight

    previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser
    "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

    Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
    Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
    sigpic'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée"

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    • #3
      Assembly line inspection marks; probably have nothing to do with how the car was equipped. My 53 has one above the cowl seam that looks like a P and apparently was applied before the final paint, and another below the seam. It is a 5, applied with a yellow paint marker after the final paint.

      Brad Johnson
      Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
      33 Rockne 10
      51 commander Starlight
      53 Commander Starlight

      previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser
      "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

      Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
      Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
      sigpic'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée"

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      • #4
        quote:Originally posted by tstclr

        There's a couple of original assembly line grease pencil markings on the firewall of my 63 Lark. One is an "A" and the other (right in the center just above the trans tunnel) is a "3". Any idea what they mean? I suspect the "A" is for Automatic but that's just a guess. As for the "3"?...
        Thanks
        Todd
        Is your '63 a Hamilton car? And I know your '64 is. If you look real carefully, possibly at an angle above the wiper motor, you will see your paint color written (rather scrawled). In Hamilton, the used that grease pencil to mark the color of the car on the bare metal. I have seen Hamilton cars from the fifties that had markings like 'two tone' and 'solex glass' scrawled across the firewall. In the '53 that had the Solex glass, the letter 'o' in 'solex' encircled the deforster motor.

        Craig


        63 Lark 2dr Sedan
        64 Daytona 4dr Sedan

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        • #5
          quote:Originally posted by tstclr

          There's a couple of original assembly line grease pencil markings on the firewall of my 63 Lark. One is an "A" and the other (right in the center just above the trans tunnel) is a "3". Any idea what they mean? I suspect the "A" is for Automatic but that's just a guess. As for the "3"?...
          Thanks
          Todd
          Is your '63 a Hamilton car? And I know your '64 is. If you look real carefully, possibly at an angle above the wiper motor, you will see your paint color written (rather scrawled). In Hamilton, the used that grease pencil to mark the color of the car on the bare metal. I have seen Hamilton cars from the fifties that had markings like 'two tone' and 'solex glass' scrawled across the firewall. In the '53 that had the Solex glass, the letter 'o' in 'solex' encircled the deforster motor.

          Craig


          63 Lark 2dr Sedan
          64 Daytona 4dr Sedan

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          • #6
            I don't know what they mean, but if you don't have them...I'm taking points off .

            (see TT thread)




            Dick Steinkamp
            Bellingham, WA
            Dick Steinkamp
            Bellingham, WA

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            • #7
              I don't know what they mean, but if you don't have them...I'm taking points off .

              (see TT thread)




              Dick Steinkamp
              Bellingham, WA
              Dick Steinkamp
              Bellingham, WA

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              • #8
                quote:Originally posted by tstclr

                There's a couple of original assembly line grease pencil markings on the firewall of my 63 Lark. One is an "A" and the other (right in the center just above the trans tunnel) is a "3". Any idea what they mean? I suspect the "A" is for Automatic but that's just a guess. As for the "3"?...
                Thanks
                Todd



                63 Lark 2dr Sedan
                64 Daytona 4dr Sedan
                Here's a pic of similar markings on my '54 Champion:

                I don't know what these refer to, although I have not really tried to figure out any possibilities. The same car also has a "22" marked on the rear trunk panel (the panel that the trunklid 'catch' bolts to) which may have been just an inventory number for the these panels.

                Another one of my Studebakers has a grease pencil marking clearly visible under the firewall paint.

                Paul

                Visit The Studebaker Skytop Registry website at: http://hometown.aol.com/r1skytop/myhomepage/index.html
                Paul
                Winston-Salem, NC
                Visit The Studebaker Skytop Registry website at: www.studebakerskytop.com

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                • #9
                  quote:Originally posted by tstclr

                  There's a couple of original assembly line grease pencil markings on the firewall of my 63 Lark. One is an "A" and the other (right in the center just above the trans tunnel) is a "3". Any idea what they mean? I suspect the "A" is for Automatic but that's just a guess. As for the "3"?...
                  Thanks
                  Todd



                  63 Lark 2dr Sedan
                  64 Daytona 4dr Sedan
                  Here's a pic of similar markings on my '54 Champion:

                  I don't know what these refer to, although I have not really tried to figure out any possibilities. The same car also has a "22" marked on the rear trunk panel (the panel that the trunklid 'catch' bolts to) which may have been just an inventory number for the these panels.

                  Another one of my Studebakers has a grease pencil marking clearly visible under the firewall paint.

                  Paul

                  Visit The Studebaker Skytop Registry website at: http://hometown.aol.com/r1skytop/myhomepage/index.html
                  Paul
                  Winston-Salem, NC
                  Visit The Studebaker Skytop Registry website at: www.studebakerskytop.com

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                  • #10
                    What do the grease pencil markings mean?

                    Simple, the Sharpie marker wasn't invented yet.

                    bada bing [}]

                    Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
                    Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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                    • #11
                      What do the grease pencil markings mean?

                      Simple, the Sharpie marker wasn't invented yet.

                      bada bing [}]

                      Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
                      Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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                      • #12
                        quote:Originally posted by gordr

                        What do the grease pencil markings mean?

                        Simple, the Sharpie marker wasn't invented yet.

                        bada bing [}]

                        Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
                        And you'll LOSE points if you use a Sharpie instead of the real McCoy in your restoration![}]

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                        • #13
                          quote:Originally posted by gordr

                          What do the grease pencil markings mean?

                          Simple, the Sharpie marker wasn't invented yet.

                          bada bing [}]

                          Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
                          And you'll LOSE points if you use a Sharpie instead of the real McCoy in your restoration![}]

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                          • #14
                            FWIW, Big Betha didn't have any grease pencil marks on the firewall, but some marks under the hood.

                            What I found when cleaning/preping for paint:

                            Craig

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                            • #15
                              FWIW, Big Betha didn't have any grease pencil marks on the firewall, but some marks under the hood.

                              What I found when cleaning/preping for paint:

                              Craig

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