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    In the state of PA, does anybody know the law pertaining to children riding in classic vehicles pre-seatbelts?
    I'm sure this may have been discussed before. (searched but couldn't find).

  • #2
    http://www.dot4.state.pa.us/pdotform...Law2_dark1.pdf

    Bob Langer
    Glenshaw,PA



    Bob Langer
    Glenshaw,PA

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    • #3
      Good Question and I am interested in Indiana Law regarding this.
      and are lap belts OK as they are OEM?

      husband of Lark VIII girl

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      • #4
        As much as I am loking forward to taking my grandson on a Studebaker car ride I won't without seatbelts.



        Gary Sanders
        Nixa, MO
        President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.
        Gary Sanders
        Nixa, MO

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        • #5
          I always install at least lap belts in my Studebakers. A lap belt saved my life in 1964.

          Jim Caldwell
          "The view don't change if you ain't the lead dog"

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          • #6
            People talk about seat belts. I remember when I was a kid I would ride on the front fender of a 1937 Plymouth holding on to the headlight.


            7G-Q1 49 2R12 10G-F5 56B-D4 56B-F2

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            • #7
              Pennsylvania will not fail a vehicle for inspection if it was not originally equipped with seat belts, and vehicles registered as antiques are not required to be inspected at all. An officer may, upon his discretion cite you for not having the kids belted. You may, upon your discretion, take the citation to court, where a reasonable magistrate will dismiss the charge.
              Wouldn't you feel better having the kids belted?

              I do not have belts in my '33, '51 or '53 but no kid in their right mind would ride with me!

              When I was a kid, riding on the center fold-down armrest was reserved for the youngest.

              Brad Johnson
              Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
              '33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight
              "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

              Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
              Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
              sigpic'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée"

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              • #8
                We used to fight over who was going to ride in the package area behind the back seat (stationwagon). However, if we sat in a seat, seatbelts were a requirement.

                When my father ordered his wagon in the spring of '56 he paid for seat belts. They came in a box and the dealer was supposed to install them. He and Dad got into a fight (verbal) because the dealer thought seat belts were a waste of time. They finally installed them. Three belts front and rear.


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                Ron Smith
                Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?
                Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
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                Ron Smith
                Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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                • #9
                  I would think common sense would tell you they need to be belted. (at least a lap if thats all the car has)and if they are young enough to need a car seat you would want to make provisions that would alow installing one in your car. ( i see vintage cars with car seats in them at shows all the time) I dont see what needing to know the "law" would matter. be safe

                  1957 Golden Hawk
                  "Studebaker? they dont make them anymore"
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                  • #10
                    Studebaker used to protect kids from broken glass, but didn't think about seat belts, back then.

                    This is from the 32 Studebaker brochure.





                    Leonard Shepherd
                    http://leonardshepherd.com/

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                    • #11
                      I have seat belts in the back seat of my 53 specifically so I can fasten car seats for my grandchildren. I have also added front seats with 3 point shoulder harnesses for protection of my wife or other passenger and myself.

                      Pat

                      Pat Dilling
                      Olivehurst, CA
                      Custom '53 Starlight aka Stu Cool

                      LS1 Engine Swap Journal: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ournalid=33611
                      Pat Dilling
                      Olivehurst, CA
                      Custom '53 Starlight aka STU COOL


                      LS1 Engine Swap Journal: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ournalid=33611

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                      • #12
                        Old Spot got seat belts when my first daughter was born. I survived childhood without them, but I would hate to lose one of my kids to a windshield or dashboard collision..


                        1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, both w/overdrive.Searcy,Arkansas
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                        • #13
                          Seat belts are required for children in any car in California.

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                          • #14
                            My Speedster is original except for the lap belts. I wouldnt take my Grandkids out without them; how would I feel if there was an accident?

                            That being said while I wear seat belts because they are logical I truly resent being told by the Govt. that I must. Taken to its logical extreme:
                            The bathroom shower is by far the most dangerous room in the house so i suppose it would make sense for some beurocrat to require you wear a helmet in the shower and obtain a permit to remove it as you wash your hair.



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                            • #15
                              The fine in California for unrestrained children in your car was just increased to $435. If you love your grandchildren, you'll belt 'em.

                              Jon Stalnaker
                              Editor, Hawk Talks
                              Karel Staple Chapter SDC
                              Jon Stalnaker
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